Neo-Nazis are showing up at protests in an attempt to push anti-Jewish conspiracy theories and tropes into the mainstream.

  • honey_im_meat_grinding@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 months ago

    If anyone thinks this is a unique situation - this has happened so many times. The easiest example is the Nazis, or the “national socialists” because socialism was popular back then so they used the term despite starting with killing union workers and leftists.

    Vincent Bevins talks in depth about this in his book If We Burn, where he discusses why (certain) protests fail by going through real life examples of movements that were hijacked by right wing extremists. This is not new or novel, this is going by the playbook on how to fight against movements that ask for justice, peace, more democracy, economic equality, and so forth.

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      Well, the Nazis didn’t just randomly co-opt that term, they were the result of a merger of two different political parties, one far right and the other far right but with some ✨ socialist characteristics ✨ (if you’re ethnically German). On the Night of the Long Knives, all of the socialist-leaning elements of the new NSDAP were murdered in cold blood by the SS.

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    Palestinians, antizionists, and their allies are some of the best prepared to counter antisemitic infiltration.

    Having to build a movement that has to tiptoe around an opponent who will use every minor mistake or misunderstanding to conflate you with a Nazi (see Greta Thunberg’s octopus plushie drama) really gives you a crash course on Judaism and antisemitic tropes.

    Plus, one of the most popular fronts within Antizionism are the Jewish anti-zionists! I’ve learned more about the history of Judaism, the shoah, and the legacy of Jewish resistance to apartheid thanks to antizionists that is have never learned otherwise.

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    It is kind of funny to see the nazis who hate muslims more than jews and those who hate jews more than muslims go against each other

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      As a Jew…none of this is funny.

      There was a hate crime down the street from me, a young girl was followed home from a peace rally and her house was shot up.

      This shit needs to stop. Islamophobia and Anti Semitism should not and cannot be tolerated as an outgrowth of this war.

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    Neo-nazis and far right wingnuts have 2 brain cells, and if any one of those scumbags could see beyond their noses they’d know they’re too stupid to have any power.

    Proof comes from watching the GOP flush America down the toilet.

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      … too stupid to have any power.

      The American Fascist Party controls the House of Representatives. Their criminal Dear Leader is going to get the nomination to be their candidate for President. And if he doesn’t win, they will respond with violence.

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        And if he doesn’t win, they will respond with violence.

        I sure hope that violence monopoly that the legal government wields can be used for good also. They were a bit lackluster on Jan 6th but perhaps they learned something there.

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      Most of them are too stupid to hold power, but there are enough smart but evil ones that it doesn’t matter much.

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    I think it would be a good look to balance pro-Palestine demonstrations with anti-Nazi symbolism.

    Would be funny to watch ‘journalists’ report on the Nazis in a protest when there are more people with anti-Nazi gear.

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        11 months ago

        That’d be a pretty weird report, but sure.

        They can report anything.

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          11 months ago

          I’m not sure what would be weird about it if it was what literally happening. How would you report it?

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      All they need is one guy with a nazi flag and they can say everyone there is complicit. And they can bring their own nazi to model for them.

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        I mean, they don’t even need that.

        They can say whatever they want, lol.

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    Unfortunately, it’s already working on people susceptible to that sort of broad, hateful messaging. Eerie to see how easily people are taken over and recruited into the same sort of things that happened up to, during, and after Kristallnacht. And it’s working worldwide. It’s scary to see young people, even 21 year olds, getting arrested for posting threats that they will murder all their Jewish classmates at college. 5:33 in the news: https://youtu.be/K1wP1oPkzok?si=oCg67zMcPucRblaq

    People are extremely vulnerable to it, especially without a strong grasp of world history.

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    11 months ago

    They would probably harm the movement more than anything, but otherwise the enemy of my enemy is my ally.

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    11 months ago

    Its almost like the far right and the pro palestine people share certain things in common.

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      Like what?

      Pro Palestine people want Palestinian people to be freed from oppression. It doesn’t matter that the people currently oppressing them (most directly anyway) are Jews, it just matters that they are the oppressors.

      The far-right (the ones being discussed here anyway that are going to these events and spewing antisemitic crap) hate Jews because they’re Jews. On a different day I’m sure they’d be saying horrible shit about Arabs too.

      So, they might have “I don’t like Netanyahu” in common, but that doesn’t really warrant a loaded statement like “It’s almost like the far right and the pro palestine people share certain things in common” now does it

      • bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        On a different day I’m sure they’d be saying horrible shit about Arabs too.

        Hell they’ll start saying it a few sentences later

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      When you consider the goals of both are to control the population, especially the female population it makes sense.

      The gop and Hamas ain’t all that different. They want to dictate what you learn in school, what you’re allowed to wear, who you’re allowed to love and what you do with your own body. They just pray to different ghosts that both happen to be cheap Chinese knock offs of the people they both hate but for different reasons.

      Two sides of the same shit coin Ricky.