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  • BeamBrain [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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    8 months ago

    I saw her watching it on TV earlier today and thought “Wait is that Shield Hero, that looks like Shield Hero, but surely she wouldn’t…”

  • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    That sounds super uncomfortable. Had some classes with a guy that recommended I watch GATE years ago. Was real cool when I realized the series oscillates between fellating the JDF and ogling teenage harem girls, definitely lowered my opinion of him.

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          8 months ago

          IDK, I have some “socially progressive but not deep into politics”-type friends who said they liked it back when it initially released. I think a lot of people just got engrossed by “pretty animations” and collective hype and just take the “the protagonist ‘learns to be better’ and ‘forms a bond’ with the slave girl” plot point at face value. Like, a lot of people don’t realize the gross framing at work because the story appears to be condemning the bad behavior (even if it’s in a dishonest manner). The backlash to the slavery fetish genre wasn’t as strong at that point so I guess the incel vibes were less obvious back then.

          That being said, a lot of the people who are still into the fanbase at this point are probably creeps who are into the slavery.

  • Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    just like…check their bedroom at some point, you know? make sure nobody’s chained to a wall in there. no rush, just something to keep in the back of your mind when you get a minute

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        8 months ago

        It’s one of those anime that does slavery apologia, which sadly became a trend.

        Stalin should have kept going until he reached Japan from the East

        • 🎀 Seryph (She/Her)@lemmygrad.ml
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          8 months ago

          It’s one of them at least, there were some prior to it too but they were outright porn. Shield Hero was one of the earlier ones to do it in a not-explicitly porn context tmk.

            • 🎀 Seryph (She/Her)@lemmygrad.ml
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              8 months ago

              Ehhh I disagree, the slavery bit is almost entirely dropped after the first chapters. It’s mainly used to represent just how much Chise loathed herself and Elias’ lack of human understanding, both of which are then the main character developments of the series. It’s meant to be the lowest point for both characters that they then get out of through the relationships they build, not just with each other (some early chapters make it clear that the two alone is an unhealthy relationship that will probably kill Chise) but also with their friends.

              Admittedly this reading is only made clear at the end of the first arc though, and I can vaguely see how you might get a fetishy reading from it (in the sense of slavery leading to her being “fixed,” since that’s a huge ick). But I still don’t think it’s nearly close to the same level as Shield Hero outright arguing slavery is perfectly fine if you’re in a pro-slavery world and the person consents.

    • nightshade [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      8 months ago

      In addition to what everyone else said, the main antagonist is basically an incel’s stereotype of a woman (someone who uses sexuality to manipulate men and also lies to hurt them). The protagonist changes to “Bitch”/“Whore” via some magical gamer shenanigans, and not only is it framed as a justifiable punishment for her actions, but the fanbase frequently uses those terms to refer to her (check out the subreddit-logo if you want proof).

      Also, in the source material

      CW: extremely messed up depiction of SV

      the protagonist arranges to have her forcibly married to an evil king who magically tortures and rapes all of his wives to death. This is also framed as a justifiable punishment for her actions.


      So yeah, the author is basically a turbo-misogynist.

  • Cromalin [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    say no and recommend she watch the executioner and her way of life (isekai about how the correct response from a young woman when a shitty dude gets isekai’d into your world is to murder him and have gay sex instead)

  • Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de
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    8 months ago

    I watched the first episode when it aired and thought “wow finally an isekai that sorta breaks the stereotype of the protagonist being the good guy hero” just for it to fall right back into that stereotype one or two episodes later…

    • CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net
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      8 months ago

      I was mildly interested in the idea of the protag being stuck with a shield and not able to use anything else, forcing them to rely on others. Then they just get demon powers and become the most powerful person anyway 🤷