The idea that the Palestinian people have only been able to persist because of their religion is ridiculous to me. They are resisting because colonialism, apartheid and genocide are very bad things to which nobody would want to be subjected, not because of Islam. If Palestinians were atheists, is he suggesting that they wouldn’t have the strength or the will to resist? Would their lack of a belief in the supernatural turn them into doormats for Isn’treal?

I like Hakim’s content, but his position on religion is quite frustrating. He is a Muslim first and a Marxist second. Also, Joram van Klaveren is still a right-winger.

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    That is still poor analysis. People can have religion, but to chalk up a people’s survival to it is absurd and horrifically bad material analysis.

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      It’s better analysis than dogmatically repeating “isn’t religion opium of the people? It dumbs them down, makes them complacent,” even when that’s clearly not what’s happening in this situation.

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        Where did I ever say it dumbs people down and makes them complacent. Especially not in this situation.

        That’s what religion has historically been used for, making it a powder keg of a belief to rely on without any sort of critical analysis.

        If you’re going to get hostile at least don’t shove words in my mouth.

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            No, you replied to me. As in directly to me.

            I apologize if that’s an accident, but you did response directly to my comment.

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              It wasn’t targeted at you, but I intended to reply to you. You said what I said was bad material analysis so I said Hakim’s analysis was better than OP’s. I’m sorry that my hostility appeared targeted at you.

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                I just got out of the shower and I realised that’s what you meant. I’m very sorry, I completely misunderstood what you were trying to say.

                I will say though, I still feel that both Hakim and OP’s analysis are both very flawed but from opposite sides of the spectrum.