• Mardoniush [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    “I John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with Blood. I had… vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done.”

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    This shit genuinely makes me feel insane. This is like legislating the sky is lemon merangue pie levels of crazy.

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    Wow, my rep is actually on the right side of something for once. I absolutely don’t want to know his reasoning for voting no because I’m sure it’s unhinged.

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      Thomas Massie has been consistently against any of the symbolic declarations of support for Israel for a while, to the point where AIPAC tried to run a smear campaign against him with his face in a black and white poster with the Words “Jew Hater” written underneath. I think he responded by declaring it election interference, but nothing came of it (obviously) but the guy somehow managed to stay seated.

      Edit: Misspelled the freaks name

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      Edit: I was wrong fucking stupid reasoning.

      Critical support either way. Somebody has the balls to stand up to aipac at least.

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      Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) is a radical anti-Israel and anti-Zionist activist group that advocates for the boycott of Israel and eradication of Zionism.

      JVP does not represent the mainstream Jewish community, which it views as bigoted for its association with Israel. JVP’s staunch anti-Zionist positions place it squarely in opposition to mainstream American Jews and Jews worldwide, most of whom view a connection with Israel as an integral part of their social, cultural or religious Jewish identities. JVP promulgates the view that Jews who identify even tangentially with Israel are motivated by white supremacy, Jewish racial chauvinism and religious supremacism.

      https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/jewish-voice-peace-jvp-what-you-need-know

      how good is gatekeeping a cultural identity in order to preserve a genocidal settler colony?

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        JVP promulgates the view that Jews who identify even tangentially with Israel are motivated by white supremacy, Jewish racial chauvinism and religious supremacism.

        Correct?

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    Genocidal settler bastards. Death to Amerika, death to Israel, death to the Five-Eyed Empire; a thousand times, til there’s no more air in my lungs to speak it and beyond

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          if you don’t want me to call you a cracker, then quit cracking that whip. And wipe that salt off of your crunchy brow.

          You people are absolutely deranged.

          also:

          israel genocides palestinians w/ universal US congressional approval: i sleep

          some people said cracker online: real shit?!?!?!?!

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              as you can see we actually hold political power and this is going to happen tomorrow btw

              (we don’t)

              many of the people on here are themselves melanin-deficients just talking shit. i wouldn’t take it too seriously. and furthermore cracker is a state of mind. you look at the whole concept of whiteness and it’s obviously socially constructed nonsense. Today Jewish Europeans and Italians are considered white. 120 years ago they weren’t. That’s because the whole concept of a pan-European white identity centered around paleness as a trait is nonsense. It keeps shrinking and expanding as needed to serve imperialism, colonialism, capitalism, and racism.

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    Here is the text of the bill so you can read it for yourself.

    H. Res. 888 - In the House of Representatives, U. S.,

    November 28, 2023.

    Whereas the Jewish people are native to the Land of Israel;

    Whereas throughout history and across the reign of multiple kingdoms, the Jewish people were persecuted and expelled from the Land of Israel, forced to live as minority diaspora communities in other lands;

    Whereas Jewish diaspora communities were historically violently persecuted in, and in some cases expelled from, other countries throughout the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and Asia due to their religion;

    Whereas the Nazis attempted to annihilate the entire Jewish population of Europe during the Holocaust, murdering 6,000,000 Jews during this time;

    Whereas this genocide provided new urgency to re-establish a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people following the Holocaust, where they would not be a vulnerable minority, where they could freely practice their faith, and where something like the Holocaust could never happen again;

    Whereas the modern State of Israel was established on May 14, 1948;

    Whereas even after the establishment of the State of Israel, other countries and terrorist entities continued to attack Israel, reject its right to exist, and call for its destruction; and

    Whereas Israel is the only Jewish State, and therefore, despite persistent external threats, the existence of Israel provides Jews a place to live free from persecution and discrimination: Now, therefore, be it

    Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

    (1) reaffirms the State of Israel’s right to exist;

    (2) recognizes that denying Israel’s right to exist is a form of antisemitism;

    (3) rejects calls for Israel’s destruction and the elimination of the only Jewish State; and

    (4) condemns the Hamas-led terrorist attack on Israel.

    https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2023677
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/888/text

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            While yes, certain (sometimes large) parts of (usually) monotheistic religions are definitely incompatable with progress and human decency, that mostly comes down to, imo, extreme adherence to traditionalism and intellectual stagnation among the believers of those faiths. Now certainly, polytheism has , occasionally, given a lot of people a very bad time. But, and this may not be the best example, I don’t often hear about hinduism, shinto, or taoism being involved in human rights violations/ genocides. Now, I’m not as well informed on those as I should be, admittedly, but you can see what I mean.

            I agree that religion is partially responsible for the ever worsening state of the world, but it’s not, like, the root cause. Not every rich asshole thinks it was ordained by god for them to be a rich asshole, sometimes (most of the time, even) rich people are just assholes, usually because they’re rich. That may be an over simplification, but like, come on. In a world where traditionalism is less a rule and more a suggestion, religion could evolve properly and be less problematic, it’s just that, currently, that’s not going to happen.

            Idk if this is at all coherent; I’m just trying to say that defining religion as just EVIL isn’t the awesomely correct take you seem to think it is, imo.

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              Hinduism is absolutely violent…it’s the basis of the caste system. Shinto is a religion in which there is no religious practice; it is basically just respect for nature and for known pioneers and geniuses of various disciplines. It exists alongside Buddhism, which is a philosophy more than a religion yet there are still violent and oppressive sects of Buddhism. Taoism is philosophical and based on enlightenment rather than serving any gods. It us often defined as a philosophy and not a religion at all.

              As for tradition: we have learned ad nauseum that religios tradition leads to destruction and death. I stand by my statement.

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      Whereas Jewish diaspora communities were historically violently persecuted in, and in some cases expelled from, other countries throughout the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and Asia due to their religion;

      We’ve never been persecuted or expelled in North America though.

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      Native groups need to take this up, the exact language can certainly apply (and in their case the documentation is a few hundred years old and well agreed upon, vs based on mythology that certainly doesn’t apply to Ashkenazi jews at the very least). Unfortunately logical consistency isn’t a winning argument so it wouldn’t do much.

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      So next bill, affirm support for the creation of a state for every minority group historically persecuted and pushed out of their homeland right?

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    So zionists have turned the star of david into a new swastika, and now officially characterized jewishness as inherently genocidal, pro-apartheid, and colonial in nature.

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    In passing the resolution, the House pronounced the “right of the Jewish people to live peacefully in their native land,” Lawler said.

    Fundamentally impossible to live “peacefully” when you’re actively carrying out a genocide, but what do I expect from these ghouls.

    Edit: Also, found the full thing. What a fucking joke. On the upside, I guess it doesn’t do anything material?

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      I’m a jew born in the US, but if I were asked to identify an ethnic homeland it would be Ukraine. I think that’s true for a lot of Ashkenazi if they’re being honest with themselves.

      Edit: so-far The Ukraine

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      But “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” is antisemitic.

      Only allowed to say you deserve to exist freely if your Isreal

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      Of course the colonizer caucazoid ghouls would say that; look at where the Anglo cracker barbarians come from

      [wild gesticulating at the ENTIRE HISTORY OF AMERIKA’S FOUNDING.]

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      Nope, not a fuckin’ thing that matters. Just a chance for everyone to stake their claim on a position and make some statements that might resonate with the voters.

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        and make some statements that might resonate with the voters.

        Overwhelmingly the hardline zionist position has been shown to not resonate with voters, but here we are a near total consensus in Congress. Bourgeois democracy is a farse.