I heard from multiple liberals with no knowledge of Russia that Putin is trying to recreate the Russian Empire.

From what period? Who knows? Will the pale of settlement be recreated, but maybe this time replacing Ukraine with an autonomous Jewish republic (interesting possibility that should’ve been done in the 30s, but I don’t blame Soviet leadership for not wanting to be the ones that incite the holocaust)?

Is this an empire that will include Siberia and the far east? What about the former Beasarabia region? Will it go to Russia or the Ottomans?

Why, and why suddenly now? Who knows?

Do liberals have any idea what they’re talking about? We’ll never know.

Most importantly, do liberals have a massive amount of unexamined racism when it comes to Russians?

It’s amazing to witness. Over 100 years of US public policy, foreign and domestic, is entirely based on weakening Russia so it can be pillaged by the richest Westerners. We literally don’t have health-care because we need the money for munitions used to threaten Russia. Countless US citizens die so we can menace Russia. Our domestic police state exists to suppress left wing movements that consciously or not take inspiration from Lenin and Russian worker organizing. Social conventions have developed that will lead to you being unemployed and ostracized if you too vigorously insist that maybe Russia = Bad fails to really explain anything.

This is all made possible with deliberately cultivated racism, completely uncommented on by libs. Absolute idealism. No intellectual rigor at all. Just pure smugness.

American voters don’t know that something other than late capitalist rot is even an idea that they could examine. Not that it matters. It’s not as if an election, especially this election, can challenge capital.

You see, a lot of countries don’t have large black populations and haven’t developed cultural conventions, laws, etc. around incorporating black populations into their societies. It’s because these societies are inherently racist and definitely not because they didn’t participate in the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

What happens if you use cluster munitions against families relaxing at the beach?

…It’s always projection with these people.

Trump will pursue Biden’s agenda even more aggressively than Joe Biden. Bet you didn’t think of that.

I read elsewhere, and I can’t vouch for the veracity of this info, the information used for targeting a beach full of civilians was provided by the US. The target was a beach full of civilians. At least 3 children were killed.

he’s at least living in reality

I’ve lived in the US my whole life, so I find his recognition of reality to be somewhat refreshing, even if he is an asshole.

Edit: Read further down in the thread. The asshole quip refers specifically to the transphobia. He’s a capitalist, so there will always be a scapegoat for the inevitable contradictions, and it won’t be the bourgeoisie.

My mom saw some BBC documentary about the horrors of Stalin (it sounded pretty muck like the passage cited above but also insinuated that Stalin murdered his wife) and while she was excitedly telling me about it I told her it sounded like bullshit and asked why Stalin would even want to do these things. She said it was probably because he wanted slaves. Anyway, the point I’m trying to make is that I’m starting to notice how much western media about eastern adversaries is pure projection.

You don’t understand, she lives in capitalist USA where you don’t have legal and social obligations.

After ww2 Germany should’ve been abolished. Stalin had too much humanity and wasn’t able to make the hard but necessary decision to push on past Berlin.

Edit: I can relate. I’m a softy and would’ve done the same thing.

This isn’t the staid, respectable, shock and awe military intervention of the west. We’re talking about Russian barbarians.

It actually just occurred to me that this is the classic projection we know and love from western journalists. The war in Ukraine actually is partial scale. They’re clearly not treating Ukrainians like Afghanis or Iraqis.

“full-scale”

They keep claiming they have what they need to destroy Russia, but 2 years into the conflict, it still hasn’t shown up, and Russia is even stronger. NATO doesn’t have anything else they can part with.

There will never be a stable, western-aligned government again. There’s never gonna be a stable, eastern-aligned government either. The rightwing coups will never end. Ukraine is destroyed for the working class. The bourgeoisie might have one last chance to sell out and move to the US.

Ehhh, this gun sucks. It’ll probably jam.

This may be true in several years, but if I’m not mistaken, all sources indicate that NATO’s already been bled dry.

It looks to me (I am not a reliable source) like Russia won the war immediately. There will never be a stable, western aligned government in Ukraine again. But there will be a huge buffer zone that keeps NATO far from anything Russia considers dangerous.