i’ve seen this phrase used around here in a few variations and it rarely gets called out as problematic. i really don’t think its ok so i thought i’d ask: does hexbear think its ok? i can understand and support the use of violence against fascists and colonizers, but genocide is really their thing. i don’t see why it makes sense to use it even as a rhetorical device. why doesn’t this get called out? is genocide so normalized in casual conversation that it doesn’t register or what?

edit: i have all the [he/him]s on the website telling me that this is actually a very funny joke. i still don’t like it or get it, but i’ve had my fill of arguing with y’all so thanks for the info. i can see why nobody calls this one out. it kinda fucking sucks. i’ll just go ahead and block people who post this type of joke and go on my merry way.

now that everyone has had a chance to chime in, i’m just going to add some context for y’all

  1. most of the responses i got at first were from [he/him]s which is why i said the above. nothing against any gender, just what i saw. it wasn’t my intention to misgender anyone sorry if it came across that way. i really meant it as an observation of who was jumping in to reply at the start of the thread, but i didn’t realize how it could be perceived in other contexts.
  2. i’m not american. i’m technically a US citizen, but i have much more significant cultural ties to SV, MX, and separately and to a lesser extent NA indigenous community. i don’t always get where western people are coming from. i like the overall tone of hexbear maybe i just don’t how imaginary genocide is supposed to be cathartic. i apologize if it came across like i’m trying to tone police y’all. that’s really not my jam, but y’all do seem a little pre-disposed to getting offended when your little jokes are questioned.
  3. i still don’t like the joke, so i’m going to remove them from my feed. if y’all don’t have an issue with it that’s fine. i was just trying to get a feel for what y’all think. the push back was a little upsetting after the day i had yesterday, but i’m over it now. i can live with curating my own experience based on my personal taste.
  4. i haven’t been that articulate, but i think my feelings are best summarized by this reply:

As someone that does find the joke funny, upon some reflection i have realised that it is an inapropiate joke, genocide is a horrific thing and to make light of it by making it a subject of a joke is in bad taste the same way that jokes about sexual assault are in bad taste, we rightfuly look down on redditors for the latter but allow the former

  • duderium [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Not crazy about it but the global north has been doing genocide on the global south for five centuries. It’s not a meme. It’s reality.

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          only whitened people call for genocide, stop being whitened. grow a real culture please. that’s all we ask. i know it sounds like everything you know would be destroyed, but that’s a good thing and you need to do it to yourselves. please.

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              i know it sounds like everything you know would be destroyed, but that’s a good thing and you need to do it to yourselves. please.

              if only there were a slightly shorter way of expressing this exact sentence thonk

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                Dude, I think ik what it is. And now i kinda agree with them.

                You can’t genocide yourself. The first world has to change themselves.

                Equating the radical change we need to a genocide is litterally what fascists are doing with the “white genocide” bullshit.

                UGOTFW meme “ironically” uses the SAME false equivalence. In doing so, It ends up just actually reinforcing an idea fascists are trying to spread. I’m willing to give up the joke.

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                  11 months ago

                  Yeah, I also agree. But I thought it was about the “third world” genociding the “first world”?

                  I get the sentiment of the joke, and the way that comedy is the vehicle of reversal for the developing-world’s vengeance upon the developed-world, but using the word ‘genocide’ is probably in poor taste both as a joke and as theory. I like and get jokes about people saying we need USSR-style gulags and purges, love a good purge, but someone saying ‘unlimited genocide’ is funny does feel fashy because that’s what fascists do and joke about.

                  That being said, I’m not above and I can see the value of a dark genocide joke as a throwaway, for example as a sardonic comment about what is happening in Gaza, but for it to become a slogan is a bit weird. Just my opinion. I don’t really mind too much either way, I just ignore it. We’re not always going to agree on everything.

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            11 months ago

            only whitened people call for genocide, stop being whitened. grow a real culture please

            Cultural genocide is still genocide. /s