Family can be frustrating as hell. My own dad seems to expect there will be some point where everyone just realizes they need to “stop being greedy” – with nothing precipitating that. He hates the idea that systemic changes will have to precede mass behavioral changes. He’ll concede that China is getting results, but believes that it’s going about it the wrong way and is thus no better than the US.

However, people don’t deserve “walls” simply for regurgitating what’s in their media environment. My dad and your dad may say some silly things – that’s unfortunate, but not surprising given the circumstances. What matters is how they act, how they treat people day to day.