Kinda curious because a lot of our heraldry and vexillology, although it looks great, it always include the same 2 or 3 symbols, like the hammer and sickle, red star, etc., and there isn’t much variations in the symbols used. So, staying away from stuff already used by Socialist states and movements, what are some non-Communist symbols do you think are a good fit for it?
It usually goes like this: “Guys, the hammer & sickle is outdated” or “we need new symbols which aren’t demonised to appeal to the masses” then “check my new idea”
Aaaand it’s always some ultra or anarcho or succdem westolefto.
No need to throw out the hamsic, but the lack of peasantry in imperial core countries makes the use of a symbol of unity between proles and peasants a bit odd.
Sigmarxism it is then (but not the reddit one).
The hammer and sickle is great, it represents the masses probably the best out of any symbol we have, never saw it as outdated, nor do I want to appeal to the masses with new symbolism which isn’t demonized. But, I just feel we can use a lot more symbolism and be a lot more varied in our heraldry and vexillology. I’m just looking at this through a design perspective, and to sorta get us to think about what we can do.
I don’t disagree, it’s just that resigning from H&S is ofen talked and proposed by people who also resign from marxism.
I think the best example for good change in symbolism is juche.
Older tools are often more recognisable than newer ones, after all the “Save” symbol on computers is almost universally a floppy disk. But we can have your cake and eat it too, if you look at the seals or coats of arms of socialist countries, you will often find that the heraldry gets much more high-tech than that. For instance, Laos and the DPRK both use a hydroelectric power plant, and Romania had a tractor and then an oil drill.
However, I think a class of items that is sorely missing from ALL socialist flags and seals is musical instruments. They convey harmony, emotions, communication, attention, cooperation, entertainment, and quality of life, they are recognisable even as a silhouette, they have natural colours like gold, black, and silver that go well with red, yet they aren’t used anywhere in socialist iconography and I think it is necessary to change that.
Replace it with a CNC milling machine and combine harvester