No hate for the middle class. I can’t help but enjoy the irony of people who thought they had solidarity with capital talking like Ned Ludd all of a sudden.

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      Middle class people don’t need to work

      If you don’t need to work, you are not middle class. Middle class still earn a paycheck.

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      Middle class absolutely needs to work though. They just aren’t complete wage slaves because they have some personal capital to absorb urgent/unplanned expenses and can survive without working for some time. Ultimately they still need to work to survive though

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      Middle class people are not working poor. Creatives are sometimes working poor, and other times are making $250k as UX designers.

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          Probably fall into the working poor category.

          But I don’t know anyone making minimum wage doing UX.

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              That’s crazy. And definitely not the norm, even outside of big tech.

              I’ve been in 4 startups, no one was making that little money even 20 years ago.

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                Yep, I’ve worked at tech places with bad pay but never “decades of experience and only making a little more than minimum wage”. Especially if they held a Senior title. It’s been a wild ride listening to their story evolve.

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              That first job also had a seasoned professional graphic designer with multiple decades of experience and she wasn’t making much more than I was.

              How seasoned could they be if they weren’t able to demand a raise or work somewhere else for more as a UX Designer? How could a seasoned professional be so close to entry level, and minimum wage?

              Know your worth, companies aren’t just going to hand you money to be nice. Negotiate, and if they don’t play ball, prove you’re as good as you think you are somewhere else.