Its what you would excpect the rah rah rah, bombs away type rhetoric. But some interesting comments can be found around the web. You can find them yourself. ;)

  • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Eh. That is debatable, the Iranians give weapons to their allies in the region, we give weapons to their enemies in the region.

    We arm Israel, they arm Palestine.

    We arm Saudi Arabia, they arm the Houthi’s.

    We arm the Kurds and Anti Syrian Forces, they arm Syrian Forces.

    We arm Ukraine, they arm Russia

    This has been a long standing part of their constitution ever since the Iran Iraq war that killed off 33% of their young men, and over 500,000 people with weapons and funding that we gave to Iraq specifically to overturn the Iranian Regime as payback for retaliation against the U.S. orchestrated coup on Iran.

    They’ve made it very clear that anyone the U.S. gives weapons to, they will give weapons to the other side. So we can’t just act surprised when we stride into the theater of a country that we deeply wronged and deeply hates us for what we did and co tinue to do, give weapons out like candy and discover someone else is doing the same thing.

    We can call Soleimani a terrorist, but he’s only doing the same thing we are doing, we just hear about what they are doing as bad, and what we are doing as good— but there is no difference.

    We could engage in a treaty with Iran— They stop, we stop— but that wouldn’t be profitable. So here we are, continuing to escalate.

    Hey, a not completely braindead take in that thread!

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/1aft47l/houthi_cruise_missile_comes_within_a_mile_of_a_us/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/navy/comments/1afqrts/a_cruise_missile_launched_by_the_houthis_into_the/

    Also with a missile that slow, that’s probably two misses with an SM-2. Depth of fire and all that.

    With as long as some of these destroyers have been on station, I imagine they have to be running low on SM-2s by now.

    90~ missiles on a destroyer. This is where I think the breaking point will be for Operation Amazon Prime. They can’t effectively resupply these ships and they’re burning expensive missiles on cheap drones/less advanced missiles. At some point the Houthis are going to get a lucky strike when stocks are depleted or the US will be forced to exhaust more ships it can’t maintain/staff/train.

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      Man multipolarity is going to come at gun point if nothing else. If you can’t enforce shipping lanes and regional powers have to that’s the end of the hegemon. It will be interesting to see if the the US continues to not even attempt a diplomatic solution in Palestine if they’re forced out because the occupation becomes untenable or if we somehow do war communism again to beat the Nazis. iirc I read that it would currently take two years production time to fully restock the navy with missiles at current rates let alone the cost to do so

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        I read that it would currently take two years production time to fully restock the navy with missiles at current rates let alone the cost to do so

        “But don’t worry Taiwan, we totes have your back. Pinky promise.”

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      90~ missiles on a destroyer. This is where I think the breaking point will be for Operation Amazon Prime. They can’t effectively resupply these ships and they’re burning expensive missiles on cheap drones/less advanced missiles. At some point the Houthis are going to get a lucky strike when stocks are depleted or the US will be forced to exhaust more ships it can’t maintain/staff/train.

      I’ve been saying this since the start. These ships have to make port to resupply, there is no aerial or naval resupply method during operation.

      The limits of the US navy are its ammunition capacity. If you exhaust the on-board stocks, you have effectively defeated it.

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          It’s effectively like deploying a squad. In most troop to troop combat if you can pin down the enemy and exhaust their supplies you can defeat the opponent by way of making them use up all their ammunition, effectively rendering them unable to fight back. At that point they effectively have to either retreat or surrender. The difference with a front line though is that you can have supply lines keeping them operating.

          The same applies to these ships, except there’s no resupplying them while in operation, so you don’t have a frontline+supply lines scenario, you just have to exhaust them to cause their withdrawal.

          I’m not sure where they would resupply… Maybe Cyprus or Malta is a viable place? Malta has a US base while Cyprus has a UK base. I think it’s reasonably likely they would use C130s to transport missiles to one of these bases for resupply.

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        Yeah, and the Houthis are clearly learning how to bypass the air defence systems of the US Navy. The fact that the anti ship cruise missile got within CIWS range means that it avoided all the interceptor missiles from the ship. The attacks on US ships are getting more sophisticated, and will continue to do so. It’s only a matter of time before there’s a successful strike against a US ship, unless something changes. The US is going to have to respond somehow.