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And all that would not even be enough, it’s not only humans that can be infected. From Wikipedia:

Cats, dogs, ferrets, fruit bats, gorillas, pangolins, hamsters, mink, sea otters, pumas, snow leopards, tigers, lions, hyenas, tree shrews and whitetail deer can be infected with and have tested positive at least once for the virus.

Good luck quarantining(lol)/culling all these animals…


No, I know my numbers, no surprise here. Also IMO the headline is a classic example of all the fearmongering that’s been going on.

Nearly 250,000 people under the age of 65 have died of Covid-19 in the United States so far. Around 61,000 of these deaths were in people under the age of 50.

61,000/250,000 = 61/250 = 24.4%

So not even 1/4 of those under the age 65 that died of COVID-19 are also younger than 50 years old. And considering all ages, those under age 50 total to

61,000/1,000,000 = 61 / 1000 = 6.1%

which is definitely not more than I expected.

But I guess the main takeaway from the article is:

Covid-19 has caused a greater deviation from normal death rates among non-seniors than seniors.

In numbers:

Since the start of the pandemic there has been a 30% increase in all-cause mortality among US adults ages 18-49, and a 26% increase among adults ages 50-64. The increase has been “just” 17% for adults ages 65 and up.

Which is commented like this

However, because the usual mortality rate for seniors is so much higher to begin with, the raw numerical increases in mortality among seniors has been greater, accounting for around two-thirds of all excess deaths since the pandemic erupted on US soil.

leaving out the flip side, which is that even though mortality for younger people increased more than that for older people, in total it still is not going to amount to much because the absolute mortality numbers for young people are very low.

This is especially true for actual young people under age 30. If you are under 30 years old, it’s more likely that you die in a traffic accident than with COVID-19…

I’d rather have an article with a headline like: “Cars deadlier than COVID-19 for young people” posted to c/fuck_cars.



That head line though… Infecting babies sounds like a good thing like this.

What’s actually in the rest of the article of course paints a slightly different picture:

data from 46 individuals who received care at a hospital for COVID-19

So this is not about long COVID in general but about people that had to be hospitalized.

Six months after their stay in hospital […] measure their memory, attention and reasoning.

those who had been hospitalized with COVID-19 were less accurate and displayed slower response times

These results were “similar in magnitude to the effects of ageing between 50 and 70 years of age,” the authors wrote.

And this is where they got their headline from.


And this is how it sounds like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4JD-3-UAzM (skip to 1:57 if you don’t care about the rest).

Gladly taking videos with actual jumping back.


A friend of mine is living in Shanghai as well and basically they’ve confirmed that the situation there is quite dire.

They are in lockdown since 1st of April. Lockdown means not leaving your apartment. My friend told me there are rumors of sealing whole buildings. The only way to get food is via delivery services. Unfortunately those very services are breaking down due to infections/quarantine of the drivers thus leaving a lot of people without food. My friend has been living on milk for the last few days and is hoping the gov. is gonna get it’s act together and prevent people from starving.


Yeah, I guess it’s true that this is more a defeat of the health minister, some news outlets even started demanding a resignation. Nonetheless Scholz surely took quite a bit of political damage as well as on the one hand he backed the plan for mandatory vaccination but did not really use all his power to get it accepted, not even within his own coalition. At least to me this makes the coalition look weak and him indecisive.



This makes Austria the only country in the EU with mandatory vaccination for all adults. But as far as I know even there the law has been suspended because COVID-19 is not considered dangerous enough to justify it anymore.



Some data from 2014 to 2018: https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/56/2/80.long

From 2014 to 2018 cases of sudden cardiac death (SCD), survived sudden cardiac arrest (SCA) and traumatic sudden death were recorded by media monitoring […] Inclusion criteria were met when sudden death occurred during football-specific activity or up to 1 hour afterwards. Death during other activities was excluded.

A total of 617 players (mean age 34±16 years, 96% men) with sudden death were reported from 67 countries; 142 players (23%) survived.

The way I see it: This is sadly not so uncommon to happen and if you look for it you will find quite some cases. Unfortunately I have not found data for 2021/22 yet.


If someone died from that heart inflamation thing triggered by the vax they were likely to have been wiped out by the virus since it triggers that inflamation too.

This probably depends on age and sex. Especially in younger males the risk of myocarditis due to vaccination may surpass that of the virus. There’s been an interesting discussion about this on Hacker News a few months back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29697780


There is https://lemmy.ml/c/cooking looks rather inactive though, perhaps post your favorite recipe there?


Something super easy if you have an oven: Just put some soft cheese (for example Camembert) into your oven for about 20 mins at 180°C. Cut it open after about 10 mins the way you can see here: Ofenkäse If you don’t have anything to put it into for baking, just wrap in Aluminium foil.

Then eat it with baguette, chopped vegetables or even grapes.


simmer for three hours…

…simmer for an additional hour

I guess our understanding of easily and quickly differs slightly.



Have you checked out Wikivoyage already: https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/North_Macedonia ?

I never travelled before

Just some generic tip regarding traveling: Check what power outlets are used and bring adapters accordingly. Within Europe it’s fairly standardized but better check beforehand.


What I’ve been wondering is why are (some) leftists defending Putin?

At least from my point of view there are two conflicting ideas at work. On the one hand there is Russia’s authoritarian system with all it’s problems that definitely should not spread and lots of leftists rightfully condemn.

On the other hand Russia still has considerable military power and just as the US absolutely did not want nuclear missiles stationed in Cuba (even though Cuba is an independent nation and the US should have absolutely no say in this, at least to their own logic regarding Ukraine) Russia does not want such missiles stationed in Ukraine. The US now claiming Russia should have no influence on whether the Ukraine can join the EU/NATO in the future is the pinnacle of hypocrisy. This is one of the reasons for the strong anti-Americanism.

From this perspective it becomes very clear that expanding the NATO into the east has always meant playing with fire. I absolutely do not want another Cuba-crisis and consider expanding the NATO an unnecessary provocation of the Russians.

Prior to 2013/14 when the Ukraine remained neutral the situation was much more stable and Russia had no reason nor intention to interfere in Ukraine. If the result of Ukraine getting closer to the US/EU/NATO is war, then I do not want it.


Hmm, Russia Today is reporting about celebrations in Donetsk and Lugansk because of this decision: https://www.rt.com/russia/550172-donetsk-lugansk-recognition-celebrations/ meanwhile western media and leaders as well as other parts of Ukraine are condemning this move.

From what I understand Putins’ decision is not too surprising. Ukraine has cut off the separatist controlled regions. This means for example it does not provide any pensions and apparently it’d be pretty hard to even get into other parts of Ukraine from these areas even if you wanted to. That’s why Russia recently started handing out passports. The percentage of ethnic Russians in this regions is pretty high, so a lot of Russian citizens live there now. With growing tensions and more and more armed conflicts this put Putin into a bad spot. After his previous decisions he hardly had a choice but to protect his citizens. So the first thing they tried was to evacuate them. But only few people actually left for Russia. Thus the current decision.

This is not meant to apologize for any transgressions but merely to state that this was somewhat predictable and I can understand why Putin would act like this.

Something that is being brought up even more frequently now is a full scale invasion of Ukraine by Russia. I do not see the point in that. What’s in it for Russia? I think Putin would be much happier with Ukraine as neutral buffer to other NATO members like Poland. Does the Ukraine have any natural resources? War is very expensive and Russia spends relatively little money on its military.


When the C.D.C. published the first significant data on the effectiveness of boosters in adults younger than 65 two weeks ago, it left out the numbers for a huge portion of that population: 18- to 49-year-olds, the group least likely to benefit from extra shots, because the first two doses already left them well-protected.

Without the booster data for 18- to 49-year-olds, the outside experts whom federal health agencies look to for advice had to rely on numbers from Israel to make their recommendations on the shots.

In this linked article:

The agency [CDC] recommends booster shots for Americans 12 and older.

The figures confirm that booster doses are most beneficial to older adults, as the C.D.C. has previously reported. But the new numbers for younger Americans were less compelling. In those age groups, vaccination itself — two doses of the Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines, or one dose of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine — decreased the risk of hospitalization and death so sharply that a booster shot did not seem to add much benefit.

“I do not think these data [above quote and some additional data about omicron] support a universal booster rollout for everyone,” said Dr. Celine Gounder, an infectious disease expert and epidemiologist at Kaiser Health News.

Am I the only one smelling the greed of Moderna, Pfizer and thus in turn that of friendly philanthropists like Bill Gates?


Really bad takes here.

Why? Do you think we can actually prevent a significant amount of people from catching COVID-19 in the first place by keeping very strict mandates? Or do you also fear that repeatedly catching COVID-19 might do serious damage to your body?


The study you linked does not even mention long covid, it merely analyzes all cause mortality and can’t even link SARS-CoV-2 directly to increased mortality. Not to mention that in some countries life expectancy increased despite the pandemic.

Nevertheless, the decomposition analysis of the life expectancy losses in these four countries reveals particularly large contributions to the reduction of life expectancy from increases in mortality at ages younger than 65 years in the US. However, our analyses were not able to identify whether these excess deaths were directly caused by SARS-CoV-2 or were related to other causes of deaths.

In contrast, a gain in life expectancy was observed in New Zealand (0.66, 0.41 to 0.89) and Taiwan (0.35, 0.14 to 0.54); no evidence was found of a change in life expectancy in South Korea (0.11, −0.09 to 0.30), Norway (0.07, −0.03 to 0.17), or Denmark (−0.09, −0.24 to 0.06) (fig 3).

You implied that catching COVID several times is the cause of this. That’s why I asked what you meant regarding the drop in life expectancy.

If you’d like to see these studies, what has stopped you from looking for them?

Finding studies like the one you linked is not a problem, but that’s not what I have been asking about.

So I ask again: Is there any actual evidence for long covid or repeatedly catching covid to considerably reduce life expectancy? These are the studies I can not find.

Regarding my education, if you are concerned about me having studied maths and physics for just a month and then decided to drop out: I can assure you this is not the case, I have finished my thesis for physics and am writing the one for mathematics at the moment.

If you said to a doctor “I think COVID-19 isn’t that serious anymore and we should drop the mandates”, and the doctor asked you “are you a doctor? are you a nurse? do you have any background in medicine or science?”, can you see why any of those questions are quite relevant to the discussion as it pertains to credentials that have an impact on how likely it is that you know what you’re talking about? That is the point I’m trying to make when I ask about your educational background.

That depends on context. If I am a politician and do not want to discuss the details, of course I will ask experts and leave it at that. But as a politician I also need to be careful what I ask and who I ask. For example if I (as politician) ask a doctor: I’d like to free the population of the cold, what do I do? I might get a response like: Well, you could wear masks all year and do self isolation apart from things absolutely necessary to survive. This is obviously the wrong question to ask. Another important questions would be: How are those mandates going to affect the economic or the quality of life of the population? Now a doctor is the wrong person to ask.

If on the other hand, the discussion is meant to go into detail, what matters is facts and connecting them logically. I am more likely to miss something as I am not a domain expert, but this does not mean I should be banned from discussions and it also does not mean I am automatically wrong because I do not agree with what you call “most experts”.

Looking at the facts yourself is in my opinion especially important as all science around the pandemic has been politicized and there is a lot of outside pressure. It would definitely not be the first time that science has been misrepresented to push a certain political or economical agenda.


Assuming you read that article, what is your opinion of the above excerpt?

The NHS Confederation acted overly cautious and obviously was wrong. The British healthcare system did not crumble under Omicron despite mandates being lifted. I am aware that the article is filled with warnings claiming Johnson is lifting mandates far too soon. And I am also convinced that this move was mostly politically motivated. But this does not mean that we can not look at the results of this decision. And these are clearly not as bad as many including the NHS Confederation predicted.

you’re completely ignoring the points in time when COVID infection rates were considerably lower than the current point in time

Yes, because the ratio of infections to hospitalizations has changed dramatically. What I look at is the pressure on the healthcare system. If healthcare can handle all patients just fine, I do not see a problem with lifting mandates. But clearly you disagree, is the reason for that indeed that you fear COVID still does a lot of damage even if you do not get hospitalized?

Why do you just happen to use mandates being lifted as evidence that COVID should be taken less seriously

What are you talking about, I did not even mention the severity of COVID in this thread?


App for group voice chats over mobile data?

Do you know any good apps (+ server if applicable) for group voice chats over mobile data? I know there is mumble but unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be an iOS app. …

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Do you think the pandemic will be over with Omicron?

Of course the virus itself won’t disappear but hopefully all measures limiting our daily lives. …

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