When you say Nazis, you mean actual nazi nazi, or anyone who doesn’t politically agree with Lemmy.worlds world view? Genuine question, like for Palestine for example Edit: nvm you answered it later

I have a book for you my friend, it’s called humankind. While these wars are making me lose hope again, this relative cutting age history book (cutting age as in new research used in book rather than decade old and often outdated research ) that argues and shows the beauty of our species. I need to read it again, because I’ll be honest I’m losing hope again in humanity Humankind: A Hopeful History https://g.co/kgs/BrbMWsC

“Unpopular opinion but do folks honestly not understand how those borders shifted? Mostly because a bunch of countries tried to murder the Jews” You can’t genuinely be this conceited. How about Israel’s “independence” which was a massive ethnic cleansing done by Jewish terrorists who were all non native from Europe and would avoid native Palestinan Jews because they found them “too weak” David Ben gurion the founder of Israeli was apart of it and was well aware what he was doing was colonisation. The stern gang and lehi group then became Israels army and government, with their teaching still very in place. https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/conflict-Palestine#%3A~%3Atext=The+main+terrorist+groups+were%2CFreedom+of+Israel)%20or%20LHI.)%20or%20LH

https://www.progressiveisrael.org/ben-gurions-notorious-quotes-their-polemical-uses-abuses/

It’s ironic how you use this projection about others getting their info from tiktok when come unsourced, arrogant and wrong, it’s impossible not to think you are brainwashed or an awful human being and uneducated. All of this is to say, Israel has a clear greater Israel plan even literally showing a map of Israel pre Oct 7 of them owning west bank and Gaza https://www.commondreams.org/news/netanyahu-map

So suprise suprise when Israeli leaders talk about “claiming greater Israel” we gotta fight back and dismantle that nation. You and you’re people oppressed the Jews for 2 thousand years, to the middle east in 1930s the Jews were colonisers no different to the Brits acting with imperialist intentions with Israel capitalising on the holocaust to form some special protected minority status no other people on earth have even tho the Jews are ABSOLUTELY not the most victimised people in the planet or even they era of history. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20241120-smotrich-has-confirmed-that-the-quest-for-greater-israel-is-real/ https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-paper-op-ed-claims-south-lebanon-northern-israel?amp

I hope things will change but do they? Did imperialism end? Did empires end? Did colonization really end? Slavery? No, it just changed forms, a shackle in new colours. Even if the west was the fall tomorrow the middle east became somehow the new dominant region, with the trauma they faced, would they be any better (hypothetically) I worry for our species as I feel like we’re bomb ourselves before we reach true mastery of this earth or use that mastery to enforce an even wider and more ruthless class system

Well with the bbc it’s essential state run propaganda machine so as long as Britain is on the wrong side of history it’ll stay like that, until 50 years down the line when greater Israel has been formed and many millions of dead are investigated and brought to light, BBC will have “internal” investigation and say something like “never again” it’s all bullshit

COME OUT AND FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN

That’s not true, it comes from greek to mean anyone who is not greek (which in ancient Greeks times, would be an insult)

I hate that term settler, these sick collective group of humans are trying to bring back 16th century colonialism with 19 century eugenics and racial superiority

That’s all it is, we don’t call the Europeans Romans and it’s the same with the middle east, did Arabs migrate around the world and we share some genetics with them? Sure but in reality it’s in the minority apart of the vast diversity of the genetics of one of the most diverse and ancient regions on the planet. My father used to tell me our ancestors were all Arabs who conquered into sindh and Punjab and settled there, which may or may not be true but in reality when I checked, it was below %5, my ancestors weren’t just Arabs, my ancestors were also Hindus, Sikhs, Jain’s, Zoroastrians, perhaps some Hellenism in there too along with many many many other cultures and religions, which is like a mosaic. Our eyes should be opened now that the western media and imperialism never died in ww1 or ww2 but in reality just changed forms. Do your own research, find primary sources and dig deep. Don’t become a nuthead type conspiracy theory but there is a lot of information and misinformation out there so critical analysis of information is one of the most vital skills you can have now

Palestine was a place for Jews to live in peace and personally the whole religion war is a smokescreen. You look at the stats you look at the footage and historical texts and historic Palestine was a multi faith and cultural society recognition as important to many faiths. It’s not my place to say but even after all this I wholeheartedly accept Jews in Palestine BUT the Jewish supremcist apartheid state is all of the most evil aspects of European colonialism and nazi Germany/american manifest destiny into one shitty little state. Israel has done nothing for anti semitism and may be the thing that resets the clock back to post Roman conquest levels of Jewish hatred if things don’t change. I don’t want that, all humans are humans and no people are a monolith. I pray for a multi faith Palestine with no supremacy of any people (tho Jewish right to return should be revoked and Palestine right to return established as their actually refugees while vast amount of Jews coming to Israel to settle are dual citizens.

Thing is, most likely Palestinians are descendants of Jews who lived in Palestine, who were once the caanites of Canaan and so on and so forth. The Jews who over time converted to islam, (but not all, Christians and Jews still very much exist tho not sure about numbers) before 1918 the Jewish population was a 56,000 thousand and many of those were immigrants by 1939 they were almost half a million

As someone who’s been to Pakistan which I love but the nation is absolutely abdominal, the humanity you’ll see in Pakistan is still better than america. The extreme inequality in Pakistan is different from my home in Scotland so hard to see but it still doesn’t hold a candle to skid row in LA. Worst of all? Pakistan just had a democratic leader for the first time in a long time and suprise suprise he gets couped by the Pakistani military which is a strong ally of America and deposed him for a dynastic oligarchs

No it didn’t. Most of the Jews came after the Palestine nakba/massacre which made Jews feel unsafe in the middle east (jeez I wonder why, but also not their fault.) the Jews who came before the independence were all European terrorist who built armed settlements and militas Far away from Palestinans and Palestinan Jews as they didn’t support them.

What? I’m sorry I’m not joining you on that basement dweeb back and forth about home instance 🤣🤣🤣 I’m using Lemmy as a Reddit alternative, and ml was just the choice I set on because I love an underdog number 2 instance. you should consider touching grass and getting a hobby, there’s bigger things in this world than this dude. Let it be a wake-up call before it’s too late

I’m sorry, is your source just a literal Wikipedia page? Are you serious? Bro get outta here 🤣

Nope, he was absolutely not a good man, but he kept order and stability that America and Israel to wipe that out.

That’s what I said

I’m with you my friend, also I blame the Jewish people for Israel, it was a small sub sect that decided to make it happen in the violent matter it did (I’m personally not opposed to a Jewish state or secular state with Jews and whoever else are considered fully equal but this isn’t it). Now one nation has control over this extremely ancient and diverse religion which is sad to see. I want to see every nation respected rather than in one nation as a villain. Jews used to be in Afghanistan and the lands that encompass Pakistan and I wish they could go back and live with us again.

But honestly my friend it’s hard, it’s so hard seeing Zionist rhetoric and what Israel does. But the anti Zionists Jewish heroes are also what remind me were all human.

Also great seeing you here again, love running into you again If you haven’t already checked it out, check out illan paper a Israeli Jewish historian with more facts than most.

It absolutely is. Tho to be honest it was my beginning foray into history since then, my new passion is bronze age middle eastern/Indus history. But of course the glory of Rome is unlike many others

It’s insane how they can kill like 200,000 Palestinian and still cry about getting a hostage agreement, the fact they think half are still alive tells you everything you need to about hamas and everything you need to know about Israel having tens of thousands of prisoners on top of killing 200,000+ Palestinian, attacking Lebanon, Iraq, iran and now invading a completely fresh regime in Syria like wtf