If you find any good literature around how Worker co-ops can fit into a broader class struggle please let me know! All of my analysis is based on first-hand experience of working in a worker co-op since 2018 and being involved with my local Communist Party since 2017, which is likely only a piece of the wider puzzle since all co-ops are different and the material conditions of each country are different as well.

I’m very keen to learn if there are explicit strategies around better utilising co-operatives in class struggle and if there are tools/techniques for avoiding the pitfalls I’ve described.

Good question. If I’m being honest I haven’t sat down and thoroughly thought about it.

One of the main contradictions I’ve found inside (worker) co-ops in a Capitalist society is that they need to remain profitable and balance worker compensation/benefits/working conditions. As was pointed out in another thread from a while ago, this means that they need to either be quite niche or need to charge higher prices than the corporate competitors.

For me and my experience in my co-op (which is successful, but niche); these conditions lend themselves to focusing on sustaining the co-operative first and looking after the workers there. This means distributing surplus effectively in terms of reinvestment into the co-op and also compensating workers via staff benefits, higher salaries, or flexible working conditions. All of this can take energy via decision-making, and co-opreatives are also a little more fragile due to this compared to their competitors generally being able to offer cheaper services with more infrastructure behind them.

For these reasons, worker co-operatives will generally have a harder time expanding the scope of their benefits outside of their direct membership (and their families). Workers can use the increased flexibility and better working conditions and more stable salary to reinvest their energy elsewhere such as in Parties etc, with the logic being that if you’re not actively fighting against a hostile workspace you might have more energy for the wider struggle. In terms of the co-operative itself, its members can absolutely vote/decide to support and benefit other aspects of the workers’ movements. This can be through financial support, doing pro-bono or reduced-rate work for specific clients (e.g. a co-operative web design agency giving a reduced rate to a Trade Union for designing their website etc), supporting strikes either on the pickets or financially (or even just allowing members to take some discrete time off for these activities if that’s more appropriate to the situation), etc.

However, as noted, the co-op itself needs to be sustainable financially (and democratically; a lot of co-ops can tear apart due to poor democracy and decision-making processes) and ensure that members continue to want to work for the co-op (despite being niche and successful, our salaries are a lot less than our contemporaries in the mega-corp consultancies because we charge our clients less than them). If those challenges can be managed, I don’t see why a willing and politically-aware co-op can’t benefit workers outside of its immediate membership, but these conditions and concerns mean that I’ve found a worker co-op will generally look after its own first. I don’t think this is a bad thing inherently, but I do think that we can’t rely on worker co-ops as a major tool of the class struggle in the long term.

Honestly I think it’ll depend on the members at each different co-op. From my experience, the founders of co-ops tend to be a bit more socialist-leaning in their thinking. As the co-op grows, people who are drawn to the co-op tend to be a bit more inclined towards socialism or progressivism as part of a self-selecting crowd but I think that’s a double-edged sword.

I’ve found that it’s actually harder, in some ways, to properly radicalise such people because these same people may think of themselves as having a good grasp on politics and economics already. Even if they’re nominally socialist, they still end up being anti-China and parroting US propaganda about AES throughout history, haven’t been involved in Trade Unions or solidarity movements, but have been on a few XR marches etc. A lot of the time others are doing lots of other little things here and there such as working with frontline charities, volunteering, etc. but aren’t involved in a party at all and are not interested in learning about basic Political Economy and just know that “capitalism is bad” but have an idealist view of what a socialist state should look like and lack (or disdain) the analytical tools to understand the compromises various socialist projects have had to make throughout history.

In addition to this, if workers within a co-operative aren’t regularly touching base with workers in other organisations then it’s easy to become out of touch with those struggles. In a corp, it’s at least clear that the workers producing value have shared interests to organise round getting a better deal and increasing their bargaining power, which can be useful as a vehicle for getting across the Marxist analysis of political economy and thus lead to the analyses of things such as Imperialism and building Socialism, and the need for it. In co-operatives, unless a worker has come from an existing political or trade unionist space then it’s harder to make these cases for the the broader analyses. I have had some success with colleagues discussing the contradictions of a co-op trying to protect working conditions and salary levels while attempting to stay competitive; but a lot of the time this isn’t able to go much further despite my colleagues being patient with their resident Commie.

Ultimately, running a co-operative takes a lot of work and headspace especially in a direct-governance model. Even the best intentioned can have all their energy absorbed if they’re not careful, so I think while it’s possible to radicalise workers in a co-operative, the material conditions are such that it’s an uphill struggle. Of course, quantity turns into quality. If enough radicalised workers form co-operatives to improve their conditions and then put the machinery of the co-operative to the benefit of the struggle against Capitalism without falling into the trap of “everything should just be a co-op”, then maybe we’ll reach a tipping point!

Additional, as I don’t think I made my main point clearly!

One thing co-ops, mostly worker co-ops, have definitely got going for them is that the surplus capital is mostly put to the benefit of members/workers within the co-operative (after an amount is usually reinvested etc). This means that co-ops, especially worker co-ops, can materially support other aspects of the workers’ movements.

For me, the main problem is that co-operatives tend to operate either totally isolated for the direct benefit of their small membership or within a loose network of the “co-operative movement”; which cannot solve the inherent contradictions in capitalism and co-operatives are more fragile than super-exploitative capitalist-backed entities.

It’s a shame when they don’t engender a broader political mindset to their workers, or materially support (ie with labour or with money) other aspects of the struggle such as parties, trade unions, or other political entities.

I work in a worker-coop. In short; I enjoy it and they’re neat but not everyone will be a Marxist-Leninist or even a Leftist of any stripe, or else want to engage in the broader workers’ movements or engage with unions. You can get Tories wanting to “own a business” and lots of reactionaries who think they’re super progressive for working inside co-ops.

It also comes with the whole “co-operative culture” which can tie up a lot of energy and lead to frustration for Marxist-Leninists who want to see their individual and collective resources put to use elsewhere, and there are lots of different sorts of co-ops e.g. workers’, housing, retail, building societies, etc. These are all fine and good for damage control, but often I’ve seen that for a lot of co-operative members the buck stops there and it becomes “everything should be a co-op” before too long, and the effort goes towards building “the co-operative movement” rather than situating co-ops inside the context of class struggle.

Overall my take on it is similar to what I’ve read from Lenin discussing the need for getting out of a Trade Union mindset and having the vanguard draw together disparate sites of class struggle into a cohesive revolutionary force – co-ops (especially worker co-ops) can be useful as a tool and should be engaged with and used where appropriate. Comrades operating as voting members within co-operatives of all stripes should be seeking to steer their co-operative towards materially supporting other sites of struggle: using surplus to contribute to Communist or Worker parties (not likely, but the dream!) or direct action; similarly supporting Unions, especially contributing towards solidarity funds and strikes; making public statements against Imperialist or Reactionary policies from the government etc.

Co-operatives, especially tight-knit ones, can be very good at looking after their own members and other co-operatives and I’ve found it a struggle to get mine to engage in other movements. I put my energy into the Party, instead, but I would certainly recommend working inside a co-operative to give you the space to then re-invest in the struggle.

I understand that, I suppose it depends on your relationship to your family and how much you’re beholden to them for your personal safety. Since I’m an adult and live independently from them, I would absolutely feel comfortable doing this. My sister has recently become a landlord, and if I hear her say something similar to OP’s mother, or if it appears that she’s mistreating them I have no qualms about explicitly stating she’s in the wrong and openly moving against her.

If OP is in a more delicate situation wrt their relationship with their parents, then I think there’s scope for quietly (or even anonymously) getting in touch with e.g. renter’s unions and asking a member to reach out the tenant. Or maybe dropping some literature through the door of the property for the tenant to read.

Are there any renters unions in your area? Getting the tenant involved with them might help them legally or practically. In the UK, we have Acorn which do a mixture of direct action (ie literally blocking Landlords from accessing the property) and supporting tenants with navigating the legal system and understanding their (somewhat limited) rights as renters.

If there’s something comparable in your local area, perhaps approach them with the consent of the tenant? If there’s not then perhaps there’s similarly minded people which you can help to start organise and bring into the fold?

Ah thanks comrade, it was indeed a cosy day!

My partner and I are on the last few days of our Summer Solstice holiday. We hiked up a local mountain with a friend yesterday and today we’re recovering on the sofa from a week of hiking, hill walking, and slightly-too-much food.

I’m alternating between reading some sci-fi on my e-reader (currently reading Use of Weapons by Iain M. Banks), writing some psuedo-code for a single-user headless ActivityPub server I’m thinking of implementing for fun, and brewing tea. I might watch a movie later, if I get the urge.

Earlier, as part of a bonus Solstice gift, I set up my partner’s laptop with an N64 emulator, a USB N64-like controller, and some old games she enjoyed as a child so she’s on the other side of the sofa full of nostalgia and smiling, engrossed in her games.

Our cat is curled up on my feet and stretched out onto my partner’s lap; her favourite cuddle position.

Mostly just through using it, and via being somewhat passionate/interested in open source stuff at the point I was discovering it, and I continue to learn by just slowly pushing against my comfort zone in certain areas.

My first Linux install was back 2008, Ubuntu 8.04 “Hardy Heron”, through wubi which meant it easy to bail out if I needed to. I played around with it, got various things working like making sure I could watch YouTube videos (via Flash!), access files on my memory sticks, use OpenOffice, listen to music, torrent stuff etc.

Eventually I swapped out Wubi for a “proper” dual-boot when I was settled and began living in Ubuntu full-time, other than needing to use Windows XP for syncing my iPod with iTunes (I’ve never really bothered with gaming on PC so it was never a draw to keep Windows). At some point the Windows XP install just seriously borked, no idea why but it ground to a halt. Synced my iPod one last time and wiped it for a full Ubuntu install.

Ever since then I’ve been a Linux user all through university and into my job. I’ve just gradually learned more and more about doing things in a UNIXy way, picking up bits of the commandline to the point where I’m much more comfortable with keyboards than I am with using a mouse, learning about various system utilities etc.

I usually think about what problems I have or perhaps what I’ve seen other people do, and then try to find out different ways to achieve that or solve the problem. Usually that takes me on a nice little journey where I get intimidated for a bit, then I digest it and read around, and then I start trying things, and then it clicks. Eventually it’ll get integrated into whatever workflow is appropriate and then it’s on to the next thing when I get that itch or have the headspace to learn some more.

I am a worker-member of a (financially) successful worker co-operative in the UK. Basically, the analysis that @CommunistWolf provides is fair and accurate:

• we are very niche, operating in a niche area of technology with high-paying public sector, charityh sector, and international body clients e.g. the UN, various transparency movements etc.
• We compete with the mega consultancies e.g. Deloitte who charge more, do poor quality work, pay their “junior/low-grade” workers poorly but also have a highly paid chief-consultant tier who are paid many times the workers in our co-op
• We have kept wages “low” for our service, in order to sustain the co-operative longer term and we distribute surplus value at the end of the financial year via a payroll “bonus”, subject to our rules that we don’t distribute more than something like 50% of the profits in order to keep an emergency fund for if we’re not profitable for a while, buy some better staff benefits etc.
• While our wages are substantially lower than those of our corp-sector contempraries, for our service, we’re also more highly paid than a lot of workers. Our current salaries are about £43k and we’ve voted to aim to raise these above inflation towards the £60k mark as part of our next plan to compensate staff fairly and keep them in the co-operative. My romantic partner works just the same hours I do, for a megacorp in the financial sector, with far fewer staff benefits, and is paid a value just over half of my salary.
• our “social wage” in the co-op is strong working conditions for the most part, although there are some contradictions which are playing out which limit the effectiveness of these. These contradictions are really derived from the fact that we compete on the market, so any worker benefits or flexibility we gain for our staff must be confronted with the material reality we need to bill X amount to clients and meet our running costs. We do have some strong policies which have emerged from our workers such as menstrual leave for women workers, unlimited sick days and bereavement leave (balanced against a long-term sickness policy), flexible working patterns etc.

In short: I believe co-operatives are a weapon in class war, especially in areas where highly-educated workers can coalesce into pooling group resources, but they are nothing more than a tool and they have their limits and problems. It’s the same as being in a Trade Union; definiteyly don’t discount it and use this as a vehicle for working class politics, but the working class ultimately need a vanguard party drawing together workers from co-operatives, unions, protest movements, etc into a coherent political and revolutionary force.

One reality I have faced is that worker co-operatives may be approached from many different political angles. We are broadly left leaning in our co-operative, however I am the only Marxist Leninist. There are a few anarchist and socdems, but some of our ex-members were openly Conservative and viewed worker co-operatives as an extension to being “self-employed” or “running a business”, rather than being worker centric. There are also a lot of libs who like co-ops, but also lack the materialist and class analyses of other things and can’t break out of the “everyone should just form a co-op” mentality (note: this is less a reflection of my direct colleagues and more something that becomes apparent when engaging the rest of the worker co-operative or broader co-operative sector)

I would never discourage comrades or workers from forming co-ops, and my co-op’s structure, democracy, and staff compensation levels have allowed me to frame discussions with non-radicalised friends and colleagues in other organisations to e.g. direct them towards unions or get them to start questioning how the money they make for their corp is a lot more than what they receive in compensation. As noted, they’re a tool for damage control and for demonstrating the labour theory of value and illustrating how corp structures are oppressing even relatively well compensated workers.

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I haven’t got direct experience of this comrade, but I wanted to respond to your comment as a few things jumped out at me.

First, I think there may be a contradiction in your comment. At first you said the following:

I would NEVER do to a woman the shit i’m into

But then in the next paragraph you say:

And i genuinely fear that if i try to repress it all, i will eventually lose control.

From the outside looking in, this implies to me that the former statement is not entirely true, and you foresee some circumstances which may lead to you “losing control”? Does this mean that you acknowledge or believe that you actually could “do to a woman” the things you’re viewing in porn? I would perhaps sit down and think and be very honest with yourself about whether or not you believe there is a risk of you doing these things to a person.

Secondly, I notice you don’t seem to present an understanding of why you get aroused by these things which you imply are more extreme. Without knowing anything specific about the material you’re viewing or your life leading to this point, I can only offer some summarised and synthesised advice.

• Begin with a reflective process on what’s lead you to view the material or have the kinks/desires you have. I would personally suggest doing this as a timeline exercise on each: the development of what you find arousing; and the history of your porn use and the type of content you’re viewing. If there is significant overlap between the two at key junctions or turning points then it suggests that what you’ve experienced is the classic pipeline of getting drawn towards more and more extreme stimulus via exposure to increasingly extreme porn. This is well understood as a process and I think even some high-level reading about it would allow you to determine whether your desires and arousal have been hijacked and lead down this path, or whether they’re coming from somewhere else (obviously it could be a mixture of the two). As well as a timeline, you could perhaps try to summarise or explain your desires/kinks to yourself with written words. You might have a good understanding of these already, but in case you don’t it might be good to start understanding the shape of them and how you would communicate or explain them to others if forced to. Be both specific and general, forcing yourself to understand the low-level details as well as summarise and abstract to try and understand general trends.
• Depending on the outcomes of the above process, investigate seeking help with porn addiction or some therapy. This isn’t to kink-shame necessarily, but you say things like “repress” and “lose control”. I think the best thing to do here is talk honestly and openly with someone who has training to frame and steer the conversation. I am aware that in the imperial core, mental health services and frameworks can be problematic but I think that it’s probably better to start somewhere and begin the journey of addressing the problems and experiences you have.
• Simultaneous to the above, it may be a good idea to seek out some peer-support groups around porn addiction. I think this may present other risks since — as other comrades note in this thread — there are reactionary approaches and frameworks which also deal with stopping to use. But the goal would be to see other people discussing the effects and experiences of porn use and see if these align with your own experiences and begin to recontextualise your own use of the material.
• If appropriate, there may also be peer-support spaces on the topics of managing and dealing with the specific material and desires you have; whether they’re informed by pornography or coming from somewhere else.

Lastly, I do want to say that struggling with something like this must be awful and not to beat yourself up too much, because it seems like you’ve acknowledged that viewing the materials you’re viewing is still indeed harmful. To me this implies that you’ve taken a very important first step and the challenge for you now is actually doing something about it. I also want to apologise if this comes across as kink-shaming; I am basing my assumption on the fact that you’re concerned about the material you’re watching and that the tone of your post implies that some of the acts are explicitly quite violent towards women.

Good luck comrade

Broadly, I’m an animist with some polytheistic leanings.

Simple answer: no.

Complex answer: sometimes-very-very-very-occasionally based on a complex set of input like is it a special event, am I among friends, how’s my physical training otherwise going, am I bloated, what’s my diet like this week/month/quarter, am I off of work, am I over-socialised, what do I want to get done tomorrow, etc.

Basically, it’s easier to say “no” because I will go two years without a single drink because broadly I don’t want to drink alcohol anymore because it gets in the way of what I want to do, is expensive, and makes me bloated and sleep poorly. But then I’ll have a glass of red wine with my fianćee to celebrate the end of our Equinox holiday, where we’ve been hiking for a solid week, and my strength training and distance running has been progressing very well for a good quarter now, and this restaurant / pub has a red wine that I know I like the taste of.

I never drink more than a glass or perhaps two maximum, and never to the point of being drunk anymore. Although I did enjoy some healthy nights out bopping in clubs with some mild inebriation back when I was at university in my 20s.

You’re very welcome. That sounds like a lot to balance, especially with ADHD. Good luck comrade, I know you can do it!

Anyone have any good study tips they wanna share ? I have ADHD so struggle with building good habits like this but I must persevere

I was diagnosed with ADHD in 2022, at the age of 30, and am awaiting a formal ASD diagnosis (psychiatrist strongly suspected it but couldn’t diagnose in the meeting because meeting was for ADHD only). So I’ve got a lot of years of coping mechanisms for studying.

With my mix of ADHD and ASD I love routines but struggle to build new ones or add new habits. I build new routines and habits by hanging new habits off of existing ones. I already religiously brush my teeth; so I decided to moisturise beforehand every time. After a while the new habit grows. I then personally find that once I’ve developed the new habit, it’s a lot easier to move it about to a new “home” in my life/routine if appropriate.

Applied to language learning I would recommend doing a quick survey of your existing daily or weekly rhythm (I won’t assume a routine yet!). Are there any touchstones that remain relatively consistent across the days / weeks? Basic stuff like brushing teeth, washing. Maybe going to and from school/college/work? Food? Even if these things aren’t consistent in terms of the time of day (maybe your mealtimes are erratic), are they at least consistent across the week? e.g. do you always manage to eat at least one or two meals a day? If yes; great. You’re off to a good start. Remember these are examples; you’re looking for the patterns in your own life. Depending on the severity of your struggle with ADHD you might have more or less to work with.

Once you’ve spotted them, apply the language learning habit to these patterns as appropriate. 5 mins while food is cooking, or maybe listening to / watching something in the target language as you eat. Or maybe taking 5 mins to digest food while you practice or revise some vocab. Start small, build momentum. Don’t fret disruptions. You absolutely will forget and drop it. Even after years I still do this. Just forgive yourself and try to hit the next timeslot.

Once you’re happy with where you’re at with your consistency, take a second to evaluate. How would you feel with moving the habit about now? Is there a better “home” for it in the rhythm of your day or week? Maybe when you get up, or before/after you brush your teeth? Or are you happy with it where it is? Either answer is fine, just checking in with yourself is the aim

For some reason, my brain just doesn’t like having folders in my home directory that don’t start with a capital letter.

That’s fair. It never used to bother me at all but as I tend to do most stuff on the terminal these days I’ve wanted to keep everything more consistent. First the spaces bothered me, then the capitals :-P But having home folders with capitals feels like a nice exception as it is a relatively special folder.

I like how clear Applications is. It’s also cool how you’ve got the Nextcloud folder underneath Documents, very tidy.

Same