• “I don’t think peak transit usage would substantially increase if ticket gates were removed.” This is just what you think, and my suggestion is to come to bus and subway stations in some of China’s major cities at 8 a.m. on Monday. . The government can’t just expand parks and widen roads at will, unless you think the government can remove buildings around them at will. The government can’t increase public transportation capacity at will, and the construction of subways and high speed trains can’t be increased at will. Even buses are affected by the number of drivers, the number of buses, and policies. Finally, subsidies for public transportation essentially come from taxes. As the Chinese proverb says, “the wool comes from the sheep’s back,” increased government spending means higher taxes.

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      This is just what you think, and my suggestion is to come to bus and subway stations in some of China’s major cities at 8 a.m. on Monday.

      Yes, it’s just what I think and I don’t have data to back it up right now. But it’s based on simple logic. If taking transit is a bad experience, then people don’t want to do it even if it’s free. Right now during peak, it’s a bad experience. During off-peak, it isn’t a bad experience, so people will want to do it. The people who are already taking transit during peak times despite it being a bad experience are doing so because they have to get to work, so nothing changes for them.

      The government can’t just expand parks and widen roads at will

      But even if it’s insufficient, you don’t buy a ticket to go to the park. There is a problem and the city will try to fix it within their means.

      Even buses are affected by the number of drivers, the number of buses, and policies.

      Everyone choosing to use the bus would improve road capacity and therefore bus-logistics. In my opinion, the discriminating factor should be the quality of the experience, not the fare.

      Finally, subsidies for public transportation essentially come from taxes.

      This is what I want. Transit is communal so it should be paid communally.

      • In 2013 my city made public transportation free for seniors, a move that greatly increased bus congestion during peak traffic times. Banning free bus rides for seniors during rush hour was once a popular topic of discussion in the newspapers. Most people who commute via public transportation spend as little as the cost of a movie a month on transportation, so people who drive themselves to work are not driving themselves to work because of the cost of public transportation, but because public transportation is too slow or for other reasons. So these people are not going to take public transportation just because it’s free. So it won’t ease the traffic congestion. Finally, What you want is meaningless, it changes nothing