as a teenager, i know about two people (ages 13 and 14) who snore. usually, i don’t come across this, so i was wondering how common/normal it is.

people have told me that snoring at that age is not normal and a sign of sleep apnea.

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    16 hours ago

    This is not true. There are plenty people who snore but who do not have any negative effects from it, e.g. sleep apnea.

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      8 hours ago

      I disagree. I think the modified statement: there are many people who snore who have good quality of life is true.

      There are downsides to snoring, one when you’re asleep and vulnerable you’re making noise so predators can find you. Obviously that’s not a problem nowadays, but it’s not how we’re designed to operate

      Snoring, hypertension, obesity, diabetes, etc, all of these are signs of metabolic syndrome. The vast majority of people in the West have metabolic syndrome right now, and well it may not affect their day-to-day life now, it can significantly impact their quality of life later. Being metabolically healthy today, including not snoring, helps avoid a lot of the issues we associate with growing old

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        6 hours ago

        While it’s definitely not a great number, no, “the vast majority of people in the West” do not have metabolic syndrome. The actually number is about a third.

        Snoring is one symptom of obesity, but also has a number of other unrelated potential causes, such as enlarged tissues in the nose and throat or enlarged tonsils. Snoring by itself does not mean you have a metabolic syndrome, nor does it mean you have sleep apnea.

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          Prevalence of Optimal Metabolic Health in American Adults: National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey 2009–2016

          Metabolically healthy Americans… at 12%

          My data shows 88% metabolically unhealthy as of 2016, so I’m guessing it hasn’t improved since then.

          But the exact numbers are not so important, the trend and prevalence

          Snoring is one symptom of obesity, but also has a number of other unrelated potential causes, such as enlarged tissues in the nose and throat or enlarged tonsils. Snoring by itself does not mean you have a metabolic syndrome, nor does it mean you have sleep apnea.

          100%, just that metabolic issues (being the most common) may be the most likely culprit, of course when working with a issue you rule out the easy things to rule out first.

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            5 hours ago

            You said “have metabolic syndrome,” not “are not in optimal metabolic health.” These are different.

            We should also clarify this isn’t just a western issue, but global.

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              4 hours ago

              Yes it’s global. Your right - In my head I have metabolic syndrome on a spectrum following insulin resistance, so I’m using the 88% as metabolically unhealthy as on the spectrum of metabolic syndrome. I shouldn’t do that, I know MetS has a clinical definition based on multi-factor presentation.