In the context of recent comments[1][2] made by the admin, I feel the need to bring up some thoughts I have on the relationships between free speech, moderation, impartiality and social issues.

For a start, I need to point out that science – the study and exploration of the unknown – is wrought with politics and social biases. Science could not be conducted without the exchange and preservation of information. Consider the endpoints and media of these exchanges of information. Humans preserve knowledge by storing it within their minds and/or inscribing it onto external media, and then communicating to others how and where to extract this information through social interactions.

Humans are biased and prone to irrationality. We know this. We know that biases dictate the rules and dynamics of social interaction, and that irrationality feeds into the formation of biases and vice versa. There is no such thing as an objective mind or impartial act; at best it is ignorance that counteracts one’s biases, and this is how we try to conduct science. But we can not get any science done by only ever making blind choices in the interest of impartiality and fairness. We have to use moral judgement and intuition in order to make choices. What to research; how to interpret partial data; what conclusions to draw based on limited knowledge; how to even draw conclusions; what questions to ask; what answers to expect; what methods to use; whose interest to serve while prioritising.

The notion that you can just “be rational” and “stick to the science” is misguided. It prevents us from identifying our blindspots and biases. Recognising and acknowledging our limitations in perspective and understanding is vital to our efforts to deepen and widen our understanding of – and existence within – the natural world.

Let’s consider what this means for members of a community such as this instance. When you are exposed to information – whether misleading, false, essential or true – what dictates your response to it is primarily a non-conscious process involving emotions, cognitive/physical state, innate primal instincts, etc. Your ability to reason only ever presents itself after your brain has interpreted the input signals and triggered an autonomic response. For many people, the non-conscious process can in some cases negatively affect their mental or even physical state in a very real and serious way (due to implications, extrapolations or associations of certain types of information - could be tragedy/gore/harassment or more complex triggers), often preventing them from dealing with it in a healthy and constructive manner. It’s more nuanced than simply having or not having a (C-)PTSD diagnosis, and it is no one else’s business to judge whether a person’s inner experience is valid or that they should “suck it up” and “learn to deal with it”. Unless one is an anti-social prick who thinks “survival of the fittest” makes for an excellent slogan and moral basis for a healthy society, of course.

Let’s now consider how this relates to moderators of a community. If someone is responding negatively to some piece of information, one would do well to reflect upon why that may be, and what, if anything, can be reasonably done to prevent that. It is the task a moderator should be concerned with, so that they can form a basis for judgement. Sometimes a person can’t be helped; sometimes it isn’t in a group’s interest to even attempt to fix a person’s personal issues. But it is worth considering the implications when making a choice in who to accommodate. The choice may be passive or active. The former could be letting each person moderate their own experience; the latter could be defederating from instances that only contribute negatively to your community.

So, who should we accommodate? The anti-social extremist lashing out, ranting about conspiracies at anyone who will listen? Do you listen in the hope that it makes them (and… you?) better people or do you shut the door to spare the rest of the room?

What about the trans person ranting about frequent harassment? Do you listen and consider their situation or do you let them figure it out on their own?

What about the autistic science nerd that gets upset over systematic disinformation and pseudoscientific posts populating their feed (and, by induction, everyone else’s)? Do you crack down on those posters or let the nerds fight their own battle in the free marketplace of ideas (I mean, they’re the rational ones with science on their side so they would surely win - sorry, had to sneak in a bit of diatribe)?

What purpose does unconditional (barring illegal conduct and spam) federation serve this instance? Who in this place appreciates the content and values sported by the people over at exploding-heads (for reasons other than absolute principles of freedom)? Forget breaking rules or laws; what potential value does a hypothetical Nazi or religious extremist group bring to this place? In whose interest is this instance acting when making (in)decisions about what other platforms are free to interact with (or at) us?

How do we expect this place to evolve over time as people who appreciate the moderation style here trickle in and remain active while people who are uncomfortable with it slowly evaporate?

  • Alacran
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    You’re basically telling us “if you don’t like it then leave”, and yeah, sure, we’re not hostages here. We chose to be here and we can choose to leave. Leaving is no big deal on its own, I have accounts on other instances. I have the technical skills to start my own instance, just other reasons why I won’t. I could even leave Lemmy altogether and my life would carry on. I’m still commenting here because I’m also stubborn I guess.

    My current thought is that people should have a choice over how they experience the fediverse

    Absolutely, but note that the if you don’t like it then leave also goes for any other instance, including places like exploding-heads. We’re not proposing to exclude individuals that cannot help being who they are. They are there because they actively choose to be, and stand for whatever is happening there. Again, what is the value in keeping that contact open?

    You cannot be a neutral actor, this is impossible. With every decision you make, you’re making a stand, in one way or another, even by inaction. Even if you don’t mean or realize it, you are implicitly standing for the values of the places you’re too afraid to block, over the values of many of your users who are already here, discussing this. You indicate that you can’t admin a community of vulnerable people, but who is vulnerable? Who is not vulnerable? What kind of people are you looking for? If we were to make an instance that curates federation with others, you would call that restricted, but aren’t you actually restricting this place to a specific kind of people?

    This is literally the paradox of tolerance.

    The condition is clear, and I have stated it. I do not want another instance to create a problem for users minding their own business browsing Locally. If I were to receive many user reports - and I mean reports of specific content - I may also take action even if these are not Local.

    What would you consider a problem? What is the kind of specific content that would make you act? Because at this point I’m believing that even if we report something, you might think “it’s not a big deal”, “sorry you feel offended but they didn’t break any rules”, etc. You mention that you’ve never experienced harassment, and you haven’t seen it? How would you react to an user reporting harassment if you don’t believe it’s harassment?

    I’m not trying to change your mind, but maybe give something to think about. As I said, leaving this place is not a big deal.