• albigu@lemmygrad.ml
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    An actual leftist British political party? Idk man, sounds antisemitic to me.

    Who wants to bet on whether Corbyn will join? Idealistic and conciliatory as he was, at least Gaza was one of the good wedge issues he never seemed to back away from. He also got a lot of flak for his “Stop the War Coalition” thing for ending Ukraine’s War.

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      I read recently that Ukraine currently stands to lose more ground from a Ceasefire Agreement now than if Zelenskyy would’ve just agreed to Russia’s terms from the beginning lmfao Enormous L for Ukraine

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      The Worker’s Party has been around for a while now and Corbyn hasn’t joined. I think Corbyn is done with party participation at this point. He’s too near the end of his career and he’s pretty much guaranteed to win his Islington seat for as long as he wants it, so party membership offers nothing that would be worth compromising his individual convictions in favour of party policy for.

      But Corbyn and Galloway have been speaking up for Palestine before the current farce of Western Left decided it was fashionable. Before most of the Western left was even born. Galloway got ousted from Labour for opposing the war in Iraq and he’s since been constantly smeared and demonized the same way Corbyn has.

      The prevailing attitudes toward Galloway and Corbyn don’t surprise me at all. Modern Western leftists constantly deride and dismiss both of them for having ideas and mentality of the kind you expect from people who were born in the 40s and 50s. But when either of them travel to South Africa or South America or the Middle East, actual leftists and retired resistance fighters are there greeting them as comrades.

      edit: Galloway’s podcast is significantly more popular in the Global South than it is in the West

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        What you mentioned is the biggest rift between comrades in the global south vs those in the global north. We have different sets of values in the global south that the global north doesn’t agree with. Religion being a big one.

        For now we can agree on anti-imperialism as a uniting cause but I can see us breaking off from there if that goal is ever achieved

        I do think that we can eventually improve in certain areas like lgbt and abortion issues as our quality of life improves. It’s hard to educate a population on those things with the medical and education sectors being as shitty as they are. This obviously differs depending on the country with some being better than others.

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          Well said. I’d leave issues regarding such values to be discussed by those actually living in that society, rather than impose my own differing ones on them and judge them that way. Chauvinist liberals love calling out Iran as “Islamist fundamentalists” or whatever when all that does is distract the fact that they do broadly represent the values of the people they lead and their actions are primarily weakening the empire, it’s sort of the same thing but going the other way.

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      I read that Galloway will be introduced to the House of Commons by Corbyn. (This is just a formality; Galloway has been an MP before and knows the drill.)

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        He’s now got the record for the most different parliamentary seats held. He was previously tied with Churchill at 4, Rochdale is his 5th.