Not sure if this was already posted.

The article describes the referenced court case, and the artist’s views and intentions.

Personally, I both loved and hated the idea at first. The more I think about it, the more I find it valuable in some way.

  • Gloomy
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    8 months ago

    So you feel like you are beeing treated sexist because of your gender.

    Wonderful. Now take that feeling. Feel the rage it brings with it, the exclusion, the pure UNFAIRNESS of it.

    And now think how often women experience this. Not on the context of “you may not enter” any more, but in hunders of other ways. You can’t be good at math, you’re a woman. Why wouldn’t you want to stay with the kid for a year or so, you’re a woman?!

    This is, so I belive, why the artist says the feeling of exclusion is the experience for male visitors she is intending. It gives you the possibility to think about how it feels beeing female in a world that is still very much male dominated (tough in a slightly more subtle way than in 1965).

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      8 months ago

      I’m not feeling anything personally because I didn’t go to the art exhibit—I’m just a person reading news stories on Lemmy.

      I have been discriminated against for my gender, race, and sexual orientation before. It’s humiliating. I imagine I would also feel a bit humiliated at being turned away from a museum due to my gender.

      In general, making people feel like shit for who they are has no positive function in any public space, and I’d prefer it if we simply left those behaviors in the past entirely.

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        8 months ago

        In general, making people feel like shit for who they are has no positive function in any public space, and I’d prefer it if we simply left those behaviors in the past entirely.

        I agree with you in general, but after understanding the idea behind it I think, in the context of said art project, it is a useful tool to get some people to think about discrimination.

        As this thread shows, it also enraged people and makes them scream “feminist are sexist and want males to suffer”, but hey, you can’t reach everybody.

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        8 months ago

        Yes.

        By buying a ticket the buyer agrees to the rules the museum emoposes on its clients, including which exhibitions require an extra ticket or certain gender.

        The lady’s only politic was made clear in advance.

        The lounge is a tremendously lavish space in our museum in which women can indulge in decadent nibbles, fancy tipples, and other ladylike pleasures—hosted and entertained by the fabulous butler. And as is always the case with Kirsha’s dinners and feasts, you are a participant in what she sees as the art itself, part of a living installation.

        Any and all ladies are welcome.

        Edit: Thinking about it a bit more… Why would you say that consent is needed here? Would you think that, say, a family only area would need consent from everybody who has no kids that they are okay with not entering?

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      8 months ago

      Thanks for proving my point that modern feminists don’t want equality or even equity; they want superiority.

      They think it’s “their turn” to be the abusers and that the world owes it to them.

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        8 months ago

        Well, if this is what you took out of what I wrote then I am sorry, but you came here with that opinion and are trying realy hard to have it justified by realy just anything.

        Because, if you’d take the time to understand what I wrote, there’d be no rational conclusion leading to your point. None.

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        8 months ago

        That you would draw this conclusion from the words written above it makes no logical sense. You joined Lemmy less than an hour ago and your post history is already toxic AF