Also videos from gender criticals. It’s so incredibly upsetting. One thing I’ve noticed is that there is simultaneously a claim that we are being lied to, and yet when trans content creators talk about their surgery complications it’s used as ammunition against us and our care. Which is it? I have always found that trans creators are fully open about the risks and complications that can happen from surgery and yet I still desperately yearn to have it even though I know recovery is going to suck. I have to hear this GC rhetoric from my parents and it breaks my heart. I just want to live my life as the woman I was always meant to be. To grow old and die as a woman. To finally have a chance at happiness. Why do we have to justify our existence? Why can’t they just leave us alone?
If it makes you feel better, I watch a few shorts from a woman who talks about talking through your relationship problems to make it healthier instead of mining it for clout on TikTok and immediately I got a flood of right-wing MRA type videos
The reason Youtube is getting absolutely fucking demolished by tiktok is that tiktok actually serves you recommended content that is like what you engage with and actually watch whereas Youtube recommends you the exact fucking opposite.
nah they both have documented issues funneling people towards fascist content.
the notion of the recommendation algorithm is inherently flawed, especially in the absence of standards or moderation. you’re always going to be using metrics that are poor proxies for actual interest.
Agreed. Expressed vs revealed preference is the devil in the details of building useful recommendation models that seems to always have this catch. It’s worsened by a hugely unaccounted for spread of experience among users. Anyone training models daily takes for granted the often subtle but unusual ways they’re careful to avoid miscommunicating preferences. Slow-scrolling past content without pausing to lessen interest capture weighting, for example, or using statistically associated concepts for steering. Neither is average user behavior, yet developers often assume it.
In the end, did the user actually tell you their preference? or did you simply attempt to give them one [at any cost]
YouTube recommendations are like gifts from an inattentive spouse but somehow way worse. It’s like if you said “I love dogs” and your spouse was like “I know you love dogs so I gathered up all the uncollected dog shit in the neighborhood and put it in the front seat of your car.”
YouTube is a fucking dumpster fire of a website and I’m convinced they’re getting right wing billionaire money to push some things and suppress others. Sucks we still don’t have a really good alternative yet.
Video hosting is extremely expensive, and even other well-funded companies have folded trying to replicate YouTube. It’s unfortunately not something that small scale cooperatives are likely to be able to fight back against.
There have been some impressive little tech demos of AI-powered image and sound compression, which could maybe fix the cost problem, but AI-powered compression is just as cursed as it sounds.
I still feel like PeerTube is our best bet, but there’s honestly no getting around the fact that there just isn’t much worthwhile content on PeerTube compared to YouTube; that using PeerTube is still a bit clunky, especially since most server admins as I understand it tend to be very restrictive with federation due to spam issues; and that online video hosting is going to be somewhat costly even if PeerTube has found some ways to reduce the cost.
I sometimes daydream about a fediverse video platform that long story short combines PeerTube with an alternate YouTube frontend like Piped or Invidious, but who knows if or when that’s gonna happen. I’d come up with the name “VennUse” as a pun on “venues” and “Venn diagram”, at least…
So I actually uploaded some stuff to unofficial (or official?) peertube instance tonight and it seems to work pretty well. I now think we could totally make peer tube more of a thing for us, especially since we don’t need to obey copyright laws.
Tankie.tube or which instance?
Yeah, tankie.tube. I ended up putting some Hikonin Sentai Akibaranger on there and it’s working great.
The other day YouTube recommended me literal Nazi race science. I’m starting to think that these algorithms might not have our best interests at heart…
The algorithms must lie in the hands of the people! Fully automated luxury space communism IS possible, but the capitalist ruling class will never allow it.
My advice is to get off YouTube. It is clearly damaging your mental health. If you feel you can’t for whatever reason, consider using something like NewPipe, where you find what you search for/subscribe to and don’t have recommendations.
Turn off recommendations, best decision of my life.
I don’t get why YouTube keeps recommending me chuds that are reacting poorly to current media 'cause of, idk, a female character or BIPOC character…
I’ve been getting random religious and right wing things for some reason. It started about 2-3 weeks ago.
I’ll be watching like safari animal videos and I’ll start getting recommendations that are straight up gore ‘dog gets eaten by lion’ type of thing. I hate how hard it is to use the internet without being exposed to disgusting shit
I’m not gonna defend YouTube, but are you all clicking on “not interested” and “don’t recommend channel” for videos you hate? Sorry if this doesn’t solve your problem.
I’m not trans and don’t watch trans videos, but… Yeah. All the time. I get random disgusting videos, or some random home video of someone in south Asia clearly not meant to be watched around the world, videos about cooking meat (im vegan and follow several vegan channels) etc. So I’m not sure that button does anything at this point.
i mean, not to be a bummer, but if she’s living with transphobic parents and they’re accessing youtube from the same IP, their watching habits might be polluting her recommendations. it’s stupid, but i’ve had it happen to me plenty of times with roommates’ interests.
Nah i dont live with my parents. Just got recommended a string of detransitioner/GC videos for whatever reason. I think its because ive been watching videos from trans creators and the algorithm clusters them together since they both discuss transition. Its very shitty
I do so constantly, and youtube still thinks its a good idea to recommend me PragerU and other reactionary crap. They’re really pushing the detrans stuff lately.
Yes i do
Copying a comment I made in another thread about the same issue:
I don’t know how effective it would be because I haven’t played with it myself, but the Blocktube add-on for firefox has an advanced blocking feature that might be able to help you:
Blocktube is very effective, even if I search for some chuds it won’t show their channels. I want to say you can set it up to block key words too?
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