• ours@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        They should have tried discarded Boeing composite materials. Good enough to explore the Titanic a couple-ish of times.

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        Over 2 million goddamn people?! i know they’re “only” about 60-100k, but holy shit. Also 5 year wait, seems more like 10 years would be realistic for most people

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              Yeah he’s an asshole too lol. Been in more than one argument with him until he banned me lol. Talk about thin skin.

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            The average new car runs around 47k. The cyber truck is 60k. There isn’t a huge difference there. The one I want is 80k. I latest have two cars. Both cost about 60k a piece. The truck can replace both of those.

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              Not if they keep taking it away from you.
              Then you are left with 0 vehicles while they fix it

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                I’ll decide when I hit my number. My main annoyance is the mileage isn’t what they originally claimed. That was the appeal was a 500 mile range. The the sweet spot for my driving needs. Why I have two cars. Otherwise I’d be all electric.

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              Why compare it to the average new car instead of the average new pickup?

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                It fairs even better when you look at trucks. The average is over 60k for a truck which makes the cyber a steal.

                Personally I don’t see it as a “truck”. It’s weird car

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                  Yeah weird in that regard that a car wash can render it non-functional if you forget to put it into car wash mode

                  I initially thought it was a joke

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      That is the real take away. They have a large waitlist but can’t seem to build them.

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        I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. They have a large waitlist and are early in iteration on this product.

        I’d bet they have hardware recalls for the next 18 months that taper off as they ramp up. The amount of new engineering that went in the cybertruck is insane compared to any other vehicle in their lineup.

        This is why you see all of the legacy automakers having problems making EVs, having tons of recalls, and pulling back. New technology is hard to mass produce until you work out all the kinks in the design and workflow.

        I wouldn’t by a CT because I don’t like the aesthetics; but, if I did, I wouldn’t buy one for at least 3 years from now. Same reason I won’t buy a Rivian R1S. They aren’t at the point the recalls are down to manageable. Rivian may be good in another year or 2. The ford EV line… seems like them pulling back means they won’t have a decent EV track record for at least a decade, if they’re still around then.

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          Most people on lemmy just want buzzwords, catch phrases and group think. Most Tesla recalls are ota. The pedal is concerning because if it does get stuck, it’s hard to just turn the car off.

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        No, but we have a surprising amount of people who don’t see too much of an issue with taking out a 72-84 month loan on an 80k truck. (that probably is over 100k with interest and fees)

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            Poor financial literacy, not really planning for the future, or thinking the reliability will make up for the extra cost. Either way, I suspect there’s plenty of people like that around the world, just that we have less public transport so most people actually need a car to get around (although most people would be better with beaters or just a couple years old sedan).

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              I always match my loans to the warranty. That way I don’t have a payment and repairs.

              The problem for most people is car cost of went up and people want very expensive cars. I’ve seen people spend equivalent to their yearly income on a car

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                Yep. I recently got a newer car (a first for me, grew up on beaters and was fine until I drove a newish miata), and I remember when talking with credit union’s officers that the new avg price for a lot of the loans they were seeing was around 50k, which just blew my cheapskate mind.

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                  Cars just keep going up. I had a Nissan I bought new for 17k. Tax credits. Aggressive discounting. Etc. is was a 40k car. I still have it but my kid drives It. I choked when I bought my first Tesla. It was around 60k. I had the money but I’m just cheap on cars. They wear out and break. I don’t drive much since I work from home. I do travel for work but I often fly. My friend bought a 90k truck. It’s insane. I think two majors problems have to be solved for electric.

                  1. Cost
                  2. City charging - we need to make access available to condos, apartments, etc. it was going to cost 20k to add a charging station for my condo.

                  People complain about range but it’s not that bad.

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    From the comments:

    When I worked at Boeing, we used dawn dish soap to seat door gaskets. Tesla is just adopting aerospace technologies for its fancy cars, what’s the problem?

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    While theyre redesigning the “gas” pedal, just redesign the whole thing

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    On Monday, we learned that Tesla had suspended customer deliveries of its stainless steel-clad electric pickup truck.

    Now, the automaker has issued a recall for all the Cybertrucks in customer hands—nearly 4,000 of them—in order to fix a problem with the accelerator pedal.

    It has come at an inconvenient time for Tesla, which is laying off more than 10 percent of its workforce due to shrinking sales even as CEO Elon Musk asks for an extra $55.8 billion in compensation.

    Fortunately, applying the brake overrides the accelerator and cuts torque immediately, but that still didn’t prevent one owner from allegedly crashing into a light pole before he was able to bring his Cybertruck to a stop.

    Tesla is no stranger to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s official recall process, but this time there is no software fix or over-the-air patch.

    The company says that it will notify its stores and service centers about the recall “on or around” today, and that owners will be contacted in due course.


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    Hmm. It’s not totally clear to me from the description what’s breaking, but based on what’s there, I feel like this maybe isn’t the best fix. Like, okay, fine, maybe the lube problem is the proximate cause.

    But bigger question: should automobile pedals mechanically be able to be wedged down by the pedal in the first place? Like, can I shove the pedal down with one foot and then pull this pedal cover up with another in such a way that it gets held in the down position?

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              their solution is rivets. I suspect this is going to repeat itself when the plastic around those rivet holes cracks and degrades, but the cybertwat might be off the road by then for any number of other idiotic design ‘choices’

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            so the pedal fascia can slide up and get caught under the dash (there’s a gap in the dash covers that it slides right into!?!?, no shit) or down and under the rug.

            Either are very bad ideas for a pedal connected to that much power.

            And why does the pedal need the plastic bit? because otherwise it would be unadorned, plain black.

            I’m of the mind that I’d prefer my pedals simple, so they’re less likely to kill someone lol.