• Donjuanme@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I’m fine admitting the government that invaded Afghanistan was fucked and should be charged with war crimes. Same with Russia and Israel right now, same with desert storm.

    Strange how all those governments had the same ideological bend to them… But both sides are the same…

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        5 months ago

        Has anyone graphed the data to see if it has been going down and what not? Any civilian death should be important and Obama doesn’t get a pass because he was a Democrat.

        I’m just curious how it changed through Bush to Obama to Trump to Biden. It also can’t be taken in a vacuum since the US changed the way they “waged war”, even though I disagree with being able to call it a war since “terror” is not a peer state.

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          Obama doesn’t get a pass because he was a Democrat

          Yes, I feel very much the same way. The data (such as it is) should all be in there, but there’s likely still a bunch of these that we don’t know about, and (from the linked article)

          President Obama deserves credit for even acknowledging the existence of the targeted killing program (something his predecessor did not do), and for increasing transparency into the internal processes that purportedly guided the authorization of drone strikes.

          So the numbers between administrations might not be apples to apples comparable

          though I disagree with being able to call it a war since “terror” is not a peer state.

          I actually agree really strongly with this one too and don’t see it mentioned that often, but, yeah, terrorist organizations are really no different than organized crime operations (other than that they’re pursuing political objectives instead of money), and they should be handled the same way (e.g. by police, not militaries).