• Midnight1938@reddthat.com
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    Its a yearly thing, baby is born, baby stays for 5 or so months, then when they are good on grass, they are either sent off to another cow keeper, farmer if ox or kept-is it that hard to comprehend cows living peacefully in a country that considers them sacred?

    Why must I explain cow maintenence in India when all i wanted to know was why vegans dont consume dairy?

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      Why must I explain cow maintenence in India when all i wanted to know was why vegans dont consume dairy?

      If you’ll humor me, I’m walking you through a few of the reasons.

      Its a yearly thing, baby is born, baby stays for 5 or so months, then when they are good on grass, they are either sent off to another cow keeper, farmer if ox or kept

      As you describe, typically, the calves are separated from their mother, whose excess milk is then harvested and consumed by humans like you. The male calves are culled, eaten, or (rarely) used for breeding. This alone is fundamentally exploitative and vegans like me believe supporting it is morally reprehensible. But if that isn’t sufficiently questionable for your scruples, in order to produce the separated calf (and stimulate milk production), the dairy cows are regularly forcibly inseminated. When they are no longer productive, they are culled and their carcasses are deconstructed and sold for as much profit as possible. Obviously cows cannot consent to any of this.

      s it that hard to comprehend cows living peacefully in a country that considers them sacred

      If that country allows the proliferation of an industry that profits from the extraction of products oftheir bodies, yes.

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        Your whole second point about culling and forced insemination falls off in Outside the cultures that enjoy its consumption.

        The last point stands for every food consumed.

        Look it up instead of arguing with me? A person online who was only interested in vegan food choices and not a discussion about dairy practices in the west?

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          forced insemination falls off in Outside the cultures that enjoy its consumption

          This is simply false cw: forced insemination of cows in the indian dairy industry

          Look it up instead of arguing with me?

          First, I actually did look it up. Second, why didn’t you?

          A person online who was only interested in vegan food choices and not a discussion about dairy practices in the west?

          lmao YOU asked why vegans don’t eat dairy! and then proceeded to fail to understand most of what people said to you about reasons why they deplore dairy.

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      In addition, cows have to be tricked into letting their milk down to be collected by humans. Without their calf present they’ll hold their milk and nothing comes out.

      In short, it’s theft.