• Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com
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    6 个月前

    Pretty sure that “dead by 50 thing” includes all the infant mortality.

    I bet he’s also using the stats from peak mortality of European late middle ages with urbanisation but no good sewers.

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      50 actually seemed about right for me excluding infants so I looked it up.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2625386/

      That study looks at lifespan after reaching 5, and 50 might still be a little generous with the care that humans could provide each other 50,000 years ago. 50 is about the lifespan of a king 3,000 years ago, I can’t imagine gen pop faired better.

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        It’s also a sample size of 15 all “King’s of Judah” which is already urbanised.

        But it’s good to see some decent data. It’s a nice irregular line from there on, and women do gain a lot more improvement than men.

        I wish I had access to scholarly journals still to do my own research, but I don’t so I’ll defer to your stuff for now. Thanks.

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        Me too. We have plenty of bones of people who lived into old age with signs of disability or having been crippled.

        But the overall stats not only do I not know, but since we only have a relatively minor number of data points it’s hard to really say any of us will ever know.

        What we have does tend to point to being better than a medieval city iirc, and I think the general consensus amongst anthropologists is that the transition to agriculture saw a decrease in life expectancy.