• F04118F@feddit.nl
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    4 months ago

    I understand your desire to defend communism.

    But really, how far does an authoritarian regime have to go, while calling itself communist, before you judge them?

    What evidence would change your mind about the CCP?

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      4 months ago

      I was banned from /r/latestagecapitalism for not loving China. Anytime I tried to explain why I do not unconditionally love everything about China, they said “but USA?” Dude, I don’t care about USA. It’s thousands of kilometers away from where I live. Everything I said was interpreted as defending USA. I say “China does this” they hear “USA doesn’t do that”. There are other countries in the world, you know, not everything is about USA. End of rant :)

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      4 months ago

      Where did I defend the CCP or communism?

      (I do fully support communism and have critical support for China, but that’s not the question here)

      What evidence would change your mind about […]

      Show me evidence that the Uyghur are being persecuted

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        4 months ago

        Where did I defend the CCP or communism?

        You’re a Lemmygrad user, they’re going to assume that’s your intent by default

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          4 months ago

          The communism preference, yes. As for the CCP: They literally denied Uyghur persecution. Not even genocide, which is a claim that, due to its severity, is always going to be hard to prove, and thus debatable, I get that.

          But even just the fact that the ethnic-religious group of Uyghurs are being persecuted on a large scale, had to be denied. That’s pretty extreme.

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        4 months ago

        Thank you for answering.

        I am not sure where to start, but let’s take the easy way: At the moment of writing, the wikipedia page “Persecution of Uyghurs in China” has 585 references.

        They’re probably all written by seemingly independent institutions, journalists and scientists who somehow have a McCarthyist-like fear of communism that they’d risk their credibility just to add a bit of damage to communist China’s moral standing?

        Or are they all factually incorrect through some other mechanism?