Linus Torvalds Speaks on the the divide between Rust and C Linux developers an the future Linux. Will things like fragmentation among the open source communi...
    • λλλ@programming.dev
      14·
      3 months ago

      Do you have something against it? People hate on it like it’s a fad or whatever. But, the people who like it, LOVE it.

      Rust is the most admired language, more than 80% of developers that use it want to use it again next year.

      https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#overview

      Rust is on its seventh year as the most loved language with 87% of developers saying they want to continue using it.

      https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#overview

      8 years in a row. I can understand the perspective of someone who spent years honing their craft in C/C++ and not wanting to learn a new language. But, the Harassment of the “Rust in Linux Lead” is ridiculous. I’m not saying you are harassing. But, saying it’s a tech bro thing is just negative and doesn’t do justice to how many devs just like rust.

      • zygo_histo_morpheus@programming.dev
        3·
        3 months ago

        If anything I think that the current rust discourse is a fad. I’m not sure what it is about rust that makes people have so strong opinions about it but I can’t wait for it to become a “normal” language so that people can chill about it a bit.

        • λλλ@programming.dev
          1·
          3 months ago

          Fair enough. Personally, I am a developer who only has worked professionally in C#. C/C++ scare me. I would get used to it if I were to use it professionally. on the other hand, I picked up rust as a hobby language for some low level stuff because I love the guardrails the compiler provides. I think rust would help make me a better C programmer TBH.

      • refalo@programming.dev
        2·
        3 months ago

        It’s also possible the number of people who like it do not outnumber the people who don’t like it

        • λλλ@programming.dev
          21·
          3 months ago

          Its also possible that out of the people who hate on it, the people who haven’t actually tried it outnumber the ones who have.

      • nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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        2 months ago

        @lambda @x00za Well for what it’s worth, there is Redox, a Posix compliant kernel written entirely in Rust. There are some other aspects of Redox I don’t like, chiefly it’s use of a microkernel, which, while it makes portability better it exacts a performance penalty, and of having all drivers operate in userland, perhaps better from a security standpoint but again exacts a performance penalty.