How do you get other people to speak with you? Usually I never know what to say in response.

Being a chatterbox hasn’t worked out too well throughout my life. Even in my second language, German, it’s evident im sort of a “parrot” when it comes to learned social phrases.

Socially exhausted right now and feeling like an alien.

  • homicidalrobot@lemm.ee
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    5 hours ago

    In high school, I took some time to read Dale Carnegie’s “How to Win Friends and Influence People”. The title is as edgy as I was as a teen, but the advice is wholesome and sound, the core being one of the first few rules the book prescribes: Take a genuine interest in people. It’s a solid set of rules that help beyond masking behaviors and can even act as masking itself, even if it could do with some more up to date examples.

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    8 hours ago

    The Vance method guaranteed* to work:

    [enter donut shop] * point at random employee*

    “How long have you been working here!”

    “About eighteen months”

    “And how long have YOU been working here!”

    “Six weeks or so.”

    “Mhm. AND YOU!”

    Then just go through every single employee, order ‘whatever makes sense’ and leave.


    *this claim has been rigorously fact-checked by dog-eating Haitians

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    7 hours ago

    The best way is to ask questions about something that the person obviously puts thought into.

    “Those shoes are sweet, where did you get them?”

    “Gnarly hair dude, who’s your stylist?”

    “Yo this chicken piccata you made is tubular man.”

    Be engaged and ask follow up questions, people love talking about themselves. Soon enough you’ve gotten to know them, and you just say hey and be friendly every interaction after.

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    9 hours ago

    Ask questions, then just listen to the answers. Nod and add the occasional ‘go on.’

    People will usually let you know what excites/interest them. If someone is wearing a football jersey ask them what the best game they ever saw was.

    People don’t expect you to entertain them, they just want to know that you are interested in them

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      8 hours ago

      That sounds simple enough for me to remember! Focusing on being a better listener is what I should be working on.

      But what if there are no immediate things to talk about? What if the conversation falls flat? Do you have a 3 strikes rule before you walk away from the interaction?

      Maybe I’m getting too much in my head about things. Thanks for the reassurance 😊 This community always makes me feel more secure with some of my inner concerns about socializing and my perception in the eyes of others.

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        16 minutes ago

        If someone doesn’t want to talk, that is ok. However, people are more likely to talk if they feel listened to.

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        “Comfortable silence” is a thing.

        And walking away is always an option. “I’m gonna see who else is here,” or “I’m going to get a drink/some fresh air” or “good talk.” are acceptable ways of ending a chat

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        It might help to have some examples. Are you a student talking to other students? An office worker talking to colleagues? An attempt to converse with (say) a busy clerk at a store is less likely to go well than a casual chat with someone who is also waiting in line.

        And sometimes there’s genuinely nothing to talk about, and recognizing that is a useful skill.

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        8 hours ago

        I also have this worry constantly, but i’ve learned that there are different sorts of silences. just because it’s silent doesn’t mean it’s awkward. most people don’t care if you mess up in casual conversation.

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      5 hours ago

      “How ya doing?”

      “Good.”

      “…”

      “Bro come on we’re literally friends already are you seriously not excited about anything that happened in the last two weeks?”

      When we’re all told that “proper” is not talking about ourselves we end up with needlessly boring conversations and the inverse idea that someone excited about something is being improper. Keep an eye on how much space you’re taking up, leave openings for people to jump in, but yap if ya gotta yap.

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      Speaking as a psychotherapist, I wanna point out that almost no one “knows” what to say in a conversation.

      We’re all making it up as we go along and that’s what most people enjoy about them.

      Often the challenge is giving yourself permission to say what you want to say.

      When people say “I don’t know what to say” what’s often meant by that is “I don’t know what I should be saying”

      If you can get past the idea that there’s a right thing and a wrong thing to say, conversation can happen organically. This takes practice sadly, and means getting it wrong sometimes, and that’s okay too.

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        5 hours ago

        Preface: I agree with you but want to add a counter to explain why people might be uncomfortable following your advice.

        We should admit that there are people who have decided that there are “wrong” answers and that those people have soured the experience enough that there’s a whole branching group of people afraid enough of them to instictually perpetuate the same nonsense. It’s not about “I don’t know what I should say” but about “I don’t know what I’m allowed to say that will avoid some form of behind-the-back punishment.”

        There are also some people I know who where a mask thicker than their own skin and I know for a fact that they do it because of trauma. They refuse to hold strong opinions and when they do you have to be incredibly delicate with them because sharing an opinion means something entirely different to them. If you share an opinion then to them you wouldn’t unless you were really mad or really had no respect for the alternatives. My ex-girlfriend literally couldn’t handle me saying “no yea…” because the “no” was negative and it was her, by her own admission, traumatized parents who made her that way. I’ve still tried to soften myself since but oh my god.

        I’m polite, your typical conservative would probably call me woke, and people call me up when they’re feeling sad because they trust me. When I say “opinion” I don’t mean insane crap like trying to say that homophobia or sexism is “just my opinion, bro” but like literally even just giving polite, requested feedback after a course or something. I swear giving a 4/5 review is the end of the world to these people because any negativity is percieved as a death sentence(and it kinda is, thanks capitalism). “I really liked most of X but think this part could be streamlined” is translated by them to “I hate you deeply and am just trying to soften the blow to appear proper”.

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          Totally agree. There’s a lot in this seemingly simple topic.

          Its often hard to unpick the differences that come from neurodiversity compared to the impact of living in a world that is often hard and even cruel to people who are seen as different.

          Consequences of that is things that sound easy or simple rarely are.

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            Yup yup yup. The people who’ve literally been shocked that I’m not judging them break my fucking heart.