Fans customized the Wicked movie poster to more closely match the original Broadway poster.

Original Broadway Poster:

Movie poster:

Some fans, disappointed by the poster, altered it to be closer to the original, moving Grande’s hand and lowering the brim of Erivo’s hat to cover her eyes. The edits prompted Erivo to respond. “This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen

“None of this is funny. None of it is cute. It degrades me. It degrades us,” Erivo continued. “The original poster is an ILLUSTRATION. I am a real life human being, who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer… because, without words we communicate with our eyes.”

So, this seems like a completely reasonable reaction to fans making fan content.

  • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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    8 hours ago

    Look, I’m all about listening to a woman of color explain how something that might seem innocuous to a white man like me might actually be harmful. I’m willing to accept that there are things I don’t fully understand and I’m willing to take a different perspective if pressed.

    But I can’t wrap my head around this one. Elphaba is a fictional character. The movie poster is almost the same as the Broadway playbill. Theatre nerds with photoshop adjusted it as a homage, and understandably so. Hiding beneath the the rim of your hat with a smirk on your face has a much different feel than staring deadpan at the camera. Wicked fans are just expressing their excitement about this movie…

    This argument that “covering my eyes erases me and silences my nonverbal communication” just doesn’t check out. It’s clear why people made that specific adjustment, and to suggest that it was a deliberate attack against the actress is just grasping at straws. This isn’t a story about the woman Cynthia Erivo, this is a story about the character Elphaba Thropp, The Wicked Witch of the West. She isn’t the first to play Elphaba, and she won’t be the last. If she’s mad that people see the character she plays and not her, she needs to reconsider her philosophy towards acting, because that kinda the whole point…

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      7 hours ago

      She should take notes from Coolio regarding his beef with Weird Al:

      “F*** no, man, I let that go so long ago,” Coolio responded. "Let me say this: I apologized to Weird Al a long time ago and I was wrong. Y’all remember that, everybody out there who reads this s***.

      "Real men and real people should be able to admit when they’re wrong and I was wrong, bro. Come on, who the f*** am I, bro? He did parodies of Michael Jackson, he did parodies of all kinds of people and I took offense to it because I was being cocky and s*** and being stupid and I was wrong and I should’ve embraced that s*** and went with it.

      “I listened to it a couple years after that and it’s actually funny as s***. It’s one of those things where I made a wrong call and nobody stopped me. That’s one thing I’m still upset about—my management at the time. Somebody should’ve stopped me from making that statement because it was dumb. And I think it hurt me a little bit. It made me seem stupid.”

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    7 hours ago

    …when the actual wounded party (if any could really be found) would be the photographer and/or the graphic artist who produced the image. The model had no idea or say in how their image would ultimately be used. No doubt dozens of images were taken probably some with brim down. It’s not up to the model to decide how the images are used.

  • FatherGascown@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    What is she trying to communicate anyway? She has the plainest, most boring face of all time, just staring at the camera with the eyes of a dead fish. There is no communication going on.

  • theblueredditrefugee@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    14 hours ago

    Without words we communicate with our eyes

    True, but this actress ain’t doing that. She’s completely dissociated in the pic, her expression so blank and emotionless, screaming that she’s dead inside. While a dissociated character could make a good villain, it’s not hard to see that the character in the poster for the musical isn’t a dissociated villian who is unaware of her cruelty but someone who is fully conscious of and revels in it. It’s only natural that people who are fans of the original work notice just how out of character this is and try to fix it.

    Don’t like it? Stop making stupid remakes of ancient stuff and make something original for once! Maybe try putting some emotion into it!

    But you know, that’d require Hollywood actually put in effort and they’ve probably forgotten how to do that by now. Seriously, is anyone watching the new shit that they fart out over there these days? Most everyone I know either rewatches old shit or watches anime. Hey, maybe we’ll see the rise of Bollywood over the next couple decades, who knows?

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    18 hours ago

    What an utterly ridiculous and inconsequential thing to get upset about. Someone should tell her to re-read what she just wrote and think about how stupid it sounds.

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    7 hours ago

    Getting them snow white vibes… These regime whores forgot that consumer demand pays their bills, not sucking some corpo’s dick due to “misused art” or is she really self involved?

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    19 hours ago

    I was on the fence about giving any time to viewing Wicked but I think it’s gonna be a hard pass now.

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      15 hours ago

      Same. Was going to see it in the cinema opening week. Now I’ll wait for the reviews and streaming release. I’ve already seen the broadway show (excellent show btw).

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    because, without words we communicate with our eyes

    IDK, the original and the edit both communicate way more mystique and mischievousness than the one with her eyes visible

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    I prefer the original poster. The new poster still looks like Wicked to me, and I would be disappointed if it recreated the original exactly. The fan edit is fun, I like it, but I understand artists from current year who made the modern poster would want to make a statement different than artists from when the original came out.

    Everyone is making art, why do we have to be mad about that?

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    In matters of taste, the customer is always right.

    Nobody but the audience gets to decide what the audience wants. Not writers, not actors, not directors, not graphic designers. If you can give the audience something they didn’t know that they wanted until they got it, so much the better for you. But if the audience just plain wants something else, then there’s no amount of cajoling or negotiation that will make them feel otherwise.

    That said, I have no idea what the collective response is to either of these posters, and this does feel a bit like a tempest in a teapot.

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      You haven’t worked a service gig comrade. When someone asks for they’re bacon sandwich to be raw you’ll understand.

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    If that’s the most offensive thing they have seen they live a charmed life.

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      15 hours ago

      I could easily make it worse by simply copying and posting a cup onto the poster.

      Yes, the Internet has broken me…