• wombat [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    9 hours ago

    the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

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      9 hours ago

      Unfortunately Mao was an idiot surrounded by sycophants who killed more of his countrymen through incompetent policies than Stalin did with his purges.

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        5 hours ago

        Unfortunately Mao was an idiot surrounded by sycophants who killed more of his countrymen through incompetent policies than Stalin did with his purges.

        Unfortunately burgerlanders are idiots surrounded by propaganda made by the empire that killed more people the world over through cruelty and policies of greed and exploitation than even Churchill did with his genocide of Indians.

        You are an idiot. Mao was a brilliant and resolute (though imperfect) revolutionary that saved millions of people, pulled even more out of poverty, and set China on the path to becoming the superpower that it is. Surrounded by sycophants? lol, he famously called on the people not to blindly accept party bureaucracy and to fight injustice even when it means fighting his own communist party.

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          4 hours ago

          Totally not because the whole world industrialized and modern medicine made its way into China. This trend could be in spite of Mao and not because of him.

          Correlation does not equal causation.

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            The industrial revolution had already long since happened, dipshit. I wonder why at that very specific fucking time, China was finally able to industrialize the way that countries exploiting it already had. HMMM. Why might that come about then? Better put on my big thinking cap about that one.

            “and modern medicine made its way into China.”

            HUH? Wow, I wonder why it made it’s way into China right then? What a WACKY coincidence!

            This trend could be in spite of Mao and not because of him.

            Mao was following (and building upon) Marxism-Leninism which among other things is a science that predicts how industrialization occurs and can be used as a roadmap for how to achieve it. The fact that Mao followed and forged this roadmap with the stated intent to do so and that expected result happened is not a “trend in spite of” literally the policies you can look up that he (and the CPC) implemented with the purpose of achieving that very thing. (I’m facepalming so hard rn).

            Correlation does not equal causation.

            No, but you know what? Causation does equal causation, like when someone says “I’m going to throw this ball” and you watch them throw a ball, you can be pretty confident that the ball is moving through the air because their throwing it, which they said they were going to do and you saw them do, caused that to happen. Nah, it must be some other hidden corollary that is the reason the ball suddenly left their hand and moved through the air. Frankly it’s embarrassing to see someone trying to come up with excuses to hand wave away the obvious fucking truth that is right there and plain for anyone and everyone to see, at least anyone who isn’t frantically putting up blinders to try to protect their bullshit worldview.

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        7 hours ago

        People always say Mao killed so many people, but when pressed for how they just say “famine”. If that’s the standard, how many people does world capitalism kill? Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good🤷‍♂️

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          A famine caused because of his agricultural reforms such as telling farmers to plant their seeds twice as close together to double yield. Or how about killing all the sparrows who were thought to be pests but actually ate the insects. Then when all the crops fail to roll in after harvest you send goon squads out to bully and arrest farmers for “hoarding food” when in fact the crops failed partly because he enforced these asinine policies.

          Now if they could recognize shits going wrong then that would help but nobody wants to tell Mao he was wrong about some of his “great leap foward” reforms so they just continue to scapegoat and abuse the now starving farmers.

          He did a lot of good things but if your fail to look at the bad things honestly then you are just a fanboy propagandist for autocracy.