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    By the way, since the 18th century, some very smart people did indeed make attempts to refute a geometrical axiom, namely Euclid’s Fifth Postulate stating that parallel lines can never meet, and the result was differential geometry. It gave us a revolutionary and beautiful new understanding of the architecture of the cosmos (general relativity), of the fundamental laws governing the universe (gauge theory), and of elementary particles (quantum field theory), and on top of that it enabled groundbreaking fields of technology such as robotics, satellites, and artificial intelligence. All of these theories have stood up to every experimental test, and all of these technologies show their usefulness and indeed necessity on a daily basis.

    If even in a such a clean and parsimonious field as mathematics such a backwards and unnecessary postulate can stand for two millennia, then what are we to believe of the ostensible “axioms” of the blurry, inexact subject of sexuality, that are after all influenced by dubious traditions and unchallenged assumptions? Must we still profess faith in the centennial sociology journals of Lenin’s age that are gathering dust and worms in the archives of some historical institute?

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    This is pure bullshit. There have been transgender people from at least during WW2 that i know of (im italian, theres an old italian trans woman, whos still alive btw, who served as a soldier during WW2 and she declared herself to be a woman just after the war was over), so way before LGBT rights movements became mainstream. This alone completely refutes this bs that transgenderism is an invention of liberals.

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      I’ve read that most human cultures for thousands of years have recognized and accepted multiple genders and gender-fluidity. It wasn’t until European imperialism in the Americas that Indigenous cultures were subjugated and destroyed and bastardized that an artificial gender binary was enforced.

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      There has been transgender people way before capitalism was invented. Just search for the priestess of the goddess Asherah as an example. It’s like people always forget that history existed before the Industrial Revolution for some reason when it suits them.

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    Yeah Ive found many of the old mainstay groups like CPGB are using transphobia to bridge the gap with the “working class”. That the “culture war” needs to be stopped. Which is bullshit. Im not isolating our Marginalized comrades to gain bigot support.

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      The support of one marginalized comrade is more worth than the support of a dozen bigots. They are more dependable, more dedicated, more personally invested, and more acutely aware of the realities of oppression under capitalism.

      The more backwards sections of the proletariat will eventually be swept along by the revolution but they cannot serve as its vanguard as they are too vacillating and easily bribed into class treason with concessions and privileges.

      In the initial phases of gathering our forces and building the politically disciplined organizations of the vanguard the task is not to indiscriminately amass numbers but to build a solid core of the most advanced section of the proletariat.

      Without this highly disciplined, dedicated and well organized core there is nothing for the masses to coalesce around. You end up with a spontaneous movement with no clear direction nor staying power, easily dissipated or hijacked by liberals.

      We have seen this phenomenon clearly time and time again. Black Lives Matter was the most recent and perfect example of this. Whereas all historically successful revolutions, from Russia to China, Vietnam to Cuba followed the vanguard model.

      P.S. To any comrades who haven’t yet done so, please go read Lenin’s “What Is To Be Done?”.

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    “Hey Communist Party of Great Britain (ML), how’s it going?”

    “Bourgeoise.”

    “…yeah.”

    The absolute state of UK politics when the communist party can’t even spell bourgeoisie right.

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        I have good relations with a lot of the YCL people in my area. According to them there’s a stark difference between the line preferred by the youth compared to the old guard. None of them want to amble on with the British Road to Socialism anymore and frankly seem a bit embarrassed by it.

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      In my experience Red Fightback are too sectarian. They won’t even agree to meeting representatives of other communist parties.

      I recently tried to get all the various organisations in my area to come together around a monthly forum to discuss areas where we could all co-align and they didn’t even entertain the idea. The leadership in CPB, Workers Party, CPG, CPGBML etc at least approached the issue seriously and put forward proposals.

      Half the reason why there are so many splinter groups in UK radical politics is because there is no intercourse between the various organisations. A radical political alternative will never coalesce around Britain’s labour movement if its active political organisations aren’t even open to communicating with each other. It’s precisely this kind of thing that has driven the stagnancy of British communism and the tendency towards squabbling little sects.

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    What a stupid hill to die on.

    There are actual problems to deal with that are a far greater priority than this one, even if you are a transphobic revolutionary and for some cursed hellworld reason that this article of theirs has any relevance to reality (which btw it does not); imagine prioritizing this over capitalism, imperialism, fascism, neoliberalism, the climate crisis…

    The sooner that the senescent “empire” collapses into the obscurity it deserves, the better. I just hope it takes the CPGB-ML and all the transphobes on terf island with it.

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      An axiom, sometimes called postulate, is a mathematical statement that is regarded as “self-evident” and accepted without proof. It should be so simple that it is obviously and unquestionably true. Axioms form the foundation of mathematics and can be used to prove other, more complex results.

      https://philosophy-question.com/library/lecture/read/301487-what-are-the-axioms-in-geometry

      What’s funny is that the full quote actually negates the screenshot by stating that ‘self-evident’ common knowledge, institutionalized old theories, or theological dogma about human behavior should be challenged by science and scientific socialism. Queer theory technically falls under a socialist science umbrella, challeging conservative intuition.

      There is a well-known saying that if geometrical axioms affected human interests attempts would certainly be made to refute them. Theories of natural history which conflicted with the old prejudices of theology provoked, and still provoke, the most rabid opposition. No wonder, therefore, that the Marxian doctrine, which directly serves to enlighten and organise the advanced class in modern society, indicates the tasks facing this class and demonstrates the inevitable replacement (by virtue of economic development) of the present system by a new order—no wonder that this doctrine has had to fight for every step forward in the course of its life.

      https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1908/apr/03.htm

      @BigCrabcakesbaabie@lemmygrad.ml

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    Yeah I’m not sure if attempting to cancel leftists like this is the way to go. Unless you’re certain they’re hellbent on a socially reactionary agenda you could just reach out to them, express your critiques and try to sway their stance on this issue. More often than not educated leftists are open to questioning the patriarchy even if they haven’t overcome that hurdle.

    And keep in mind you will come across a LOT of working-class socially reactionary leftists in any movement that grows big enough to actually be able to take power. You have to try to change their views working in a top-down approach.