Honestly, I’m not mad, its just funny how state/corporate sponsored violence is all okay but a pleb making a joke (its not even a real threat c’mon) is not okay.
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Wasn’t the entire point of moving to the Fediverse that we can easily switch instances if one goes bad?
Why are people still on .world lmao
The problem is communities congregate where they are the largest. You can move yourself off of lemmy.world, but you can’t move your community off of lemmy.world. You could make communities less dependent on the host they are on or any given moderator group, but Lemmy’s design is not that. So you can sever yourself off of it, and now you are left the option of joining far smaller and less active alternative communities.
I don’t believe it would be that hard to make a lemmy style federation where if your host or their moderator groups ban you, other hosts could still see you. That used to be the case with kbin, people could comment in communities based on instances that had banned them, even if those comments would only be seen in kbin. It was easily exploitable, because it bypassed moderation controls for the home instance and would really have required moderation group for that instance, but it could be done.
Imagine having links to communities like, https://lemm.ee/c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com ,but being capable of specifying a different moderator group / messaging handler dispatcher (or whatever the component in charge within an instance of determining which comments to inform users of is called) from another instance like, https://lemm.ee/c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com:lemm.ee , that would just default to the official if there wasn’t any instance local group in charge. But that would cause so much drama because these positions attract control freaks.
you can’t move your community off of lemmy.world.
You can
Those are completely different communities, I’m talking about viewing and participating in the same community with different moderators/instances in charge. The examples you show are different communities, where it just so happens that one redirects to another because a moderation group decided to. It’s not what I’m suggesting, taking the same comment pool and passing it off through the filter of a new instance/moderator group to moderate.
This solution still allows to address the LW centralization with the tools we have today.
Your solution requires rework of the Lemmy software that is probably not going to happen any time soon.
Except that it really wouldn’t be a solution for OP’s problem. It only works when the problem also isn’t leading the moderation team.
In that case, organizing on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com allows to replace a community lead by power tripping mods.
Last example: !lotrmemes@midwest.social being replaced by !lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Well OP did switch, indicated by the switched instance of their new account
Been thinking about this for about a week now. How does one go about switching instances?
Create a new account
For some reason I thought you could migrate your profile between instances. Oh well. Fuck world. I just kinda got plopped here because I use Sync mainly - ready to move now though.
In settings there’s an import and export button. I will post a link or something here if I find one.
Edit: https://piefed.social/post/5291
In Lemmy the export is under Profile -> Settings. In PieFed the import can be found at Account -> Settings, at the bottom.
Thanks for this!
Hmm, what does this do?
Export your instances list and blocklist. Then in your new account you can import them again.
You can just use the import/export settings feature in the account settings
There’s a tool somewhere that lets you download your subscriptions then apply them to the new account, but no migration.
It’s not a tool, it’s a feature in the settings
Why are people still on .world lmao
Few reasons:
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I joined when it was one of the smaller instances
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Laziness
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Currently looking to move
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It’s a dumb argument because unless you’re willing to lie to moderators with different usernames to trick them into not knowing who you are (ban evasion) being banned on one shitty instance locks you out of it and any communities it has. Lemmy.world has many of the bigger ones, lemmy.ml too.
Moving on isn’t as easy as people make it seem. This is one of those Fediverse lies that people regurgitate ad-nauseam.The truth is that bigger instances, or instances holding bigger communities hold a larger slice of the pie, and unless you forcefully remove people from the instances, or remove the instances from the people, they cannot be replaced. You can’t start your own instance and communities to replace the big ones at the top. Your new one will occupy less of the pie.
Looking at the communities tab can give you an idea of which ones they are
Community Tab screenshot
The instances which hold these positions hold control, and they can’t be as easily replaced or bypassed. So “Just move to another server” doesn’t work unless you’re encouraging ban evasion, which most people are not. They can make a real impact on your experience in the Fediverse, and trying to deny that fact is disingenuous and misinformation, because they absolutely do hold control here. They are the ones who’s actions make a difference, especially because they cannot be replaced easily.
The fediverse will be at its greatest when communities can seamlessly switch instances. As seen from the minimal Reddit user migration, users won’t switch as much as necessary to affect real change.
The large user base, and a couple of communities who don’t care about current events. But it’s not an admin thing anyway so - ? Does it really matter what instance it’s on?
I dont’ know what community that was in, but if it was one of the usual suspects, I’d say move to a different community. Not sure what .world has to do with it since it wasn’t an admin thing, just some mod being mod. !Politics, I assume?
mods on politcs and news are neo lib acolytes, they mode for the ruling class while pretending to be one of us lol
Inertia
Fuck lemmy.world
We need to move communities off LW.
Lemmy is way too dominated by those bootlicking batards
.world can suck the shit from my colon
desalines of ml is the ultimate power tripping bastard
Lol, lmao even
It’s well documented so you can lol all u want but doesn’t change a damn thing
At least they are not modding the shit out of working class sentiment with bullshit excuses.
.world is literally whoring for the ruling class… I wonder how much they earn on this grift.
They do it for free, all the worse.
Sorry, you’ll have to suffer under the tankie regime
Small list from @lvxferre@mander.xyz
discussion: !askusa@discuss.online, !casualconversation@lemm.ee, !yurop@lemm.ee
technology: !technology@lemmy.zip, !linux@programming.dev, !android@lemdro.id
politics: !uk_politics@feddit.uk (UK), !pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net (USA), !canadapolitics@lemmy.ca (Canada), !australianpolitics@aussie.zone (Oz), !politics@beehaw.org (allegedly world, in practice USA)
news: !world@quokk.au , !globalnews@lemmy.zip
comic strips: I couldn’t find any general comm, but there’s !cyanideandhappiness@lemm.ee and !thefarside@sh.itjust.works
microblog memes: !best_of_mastodon@sh.itjust.works , !whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works , nonpoliticaltwitter@civilloquy.com
political memes: !politicalmemes@lemmy.ca , !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com
memes: !memes@sopuli.xyz, !funny@sh.itjust.works
ask lemmy: !asklemmy@lemm.ee
movies and animattion: !movies@lemm.ee , !showsandmovies@lemm.ee , !animation@lemm.ee .
Specifically for Japanese anime there’s ani.social (the whole instance).
I wouldn’t recommend Beehaw for people since they may not be accessible on the instances people might choose and they tend to be a bit more heavy handed with their approach.
They’ve also stated they don’t have much long term commitment to being part of the Fediverse or being on Lemmy so I wouldn’t put much faith in them as a good replacement to lemmy.world.Ani.social mentioned!
Anyway, isn’t beehaw way worse than world? Like, to the point they were at one point trying to leave lemmy so they could better isolate their community? As far as politics goes in Lemmy world is in control, sadly, since it’s the worst part of world in my experience.
Beehaw is isolationist = picky on who it federates with, but it’s transparent on that. And the main reason why its admins want another software is the sorry state of the Lemmy mod tools.
It improved quite a lot since 0.18.3.
I always feel like Beehaw are in a weird spot. Either keep using Lemmy to keep up with the new features for both the mods and the users, or switch to Mbin or Piefed, they are viable options.
This in between is just strange.
If I recall correctly its admins are considering to move it to SubLinks, once it gets ready enough.
I’m on the Sublinks Matrix, the project has come to a halt. That’s why I said that if Beehaw admins wanted to switch, Piefed and Mbin are much better options
I’m on the Sublinks Matrix, the project has come to a halt.
That’s sad :( any specific reason why?
Mbin so far looks promising to me
the project has come to a halt
Blergh. That’s sad. Thank you for the info!
Yes, beehaw is not ideal, I should probably replace that one with !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world
Looks like it had some activity but is now dead.
The election is over, people moved on
Those are all available through .world tho right?
Yes, all links should work, feel free to report if not
People who complain about moderation on this platform tend to be really obnoxious.
Case in point OP screenshotting a Royal ‘we’ advocating murdering people in a job description with no other criteria and a couple generic emojis to boot.
Relative to the volume of content and platform tools available please just communicate responsibly. There is an objective standard for advocating for future violence and OPs comment clearly meets that.
If one protects CEOs aren’t they the one advocating violence against the common people?
Yes, advocating for the killing of children in the most literal sense
You literally did what you were banned for and then pulled a “in Minecraft” with this post.
I think World just need to accept that they’re pissing into the wind at this point, I’ve never seen a platform so united on something.
Try to praise Spez anywhere on Lemmy
That would be viewed as obvious rage bait on most of the platform.
we can’t HAIL SPEZ?
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You’re a dumb ass who needs to learn plausible deniability.
It will happen to anyone who uses .world sooner or later.
To be fair, the post is a news report covering the CEO’s public mass death threat, not an endorsement of it.
Maybe they misread depose as ‘dispose’ idk .
Bunch of sensitive cucks.
Well the single minded American people are attacking random McDonald’s workers, they’re in the clear.
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I got banned from world for similar. Also got banned for stating a fact: democrat joe Lieberman single-handedly killed the single payer option during the passage of obamacare/aca.
The libs can’t cope.
Edit for the libs:
A senator from Connecticut, the insurance capital of the world, became the industry’s go-to guy. Insurers had spent years investing in Sen. Joe Lieberman, a former Democrat-turned-Independent. During the reform debate, the watchdog group Public Campaign Action Fund, (now called EveryVoice), called Lieberman an “insurance puppet,”noting that insurers had contributed nearly half a million dollars to his campaigns over the years.
The Democrats needed Lieberman’s vote to get reform passed, and insurers knew it. Shortly before the Senate was set to vote on the bill, Lieberman said he would vote for the bill only if the public option was stripped out.
Cope and seethe libs. Your electoralism and ability to be easily fooled by the DNC’s lies but but republicans! have led us to this mess. And yes, it goes without saying the republicans are no better. But who needs enemies when one has backstabbing democrats for friends? But if we vote harder we’ll have the votes! no, you fucking won’t. Another fucking patsy will make sure to torpedo any kind of progressive legislation, anything to the left of neoliberalism. See Manchin, Sinema, and the fucking senate parliamentarian for examples.
Wow, you were banned for stating a known and proven fact about Lieberman? That’s actually insane
Completely fucking insane. They wanna live in their little liberal bubble where they can just vote their way to the most moderate inconsequential reforms.
democrat joe Lieberman single-handedly killed the single payer option during the passage of obamacare/aca.
Neo lib acolytes hate this fact lol
ACA is how we ended up here… private health insurance it not the solution. Full stop.
I see the right is trying to blame doctors and left wants to water down call for single payer/medicare for all.
Socials are starting to get suppressed too. Go to press on.
.world news modding is fucking pathetic… imagine fucking the working class this hard. disgusting.
They really do. Dude was senator of CT and bought and paid for by the insurance companies, many of whom have headquarters there (at least at the time).
Lemmy.world mods are a bunch of fucking libs. Say anything truly leftist and you’ll get a ban.
Yeah, it would have been a lot better if leftists people simply hadn’t voted in the first place. Having a Republican in his seat instead would surely have improved things
It wouldn’t of changed anything. How are you not seeing the logic?
Genuinely curious what you think they should have done differently. You said that voting got us into this mess, but also that it wouldn’t have changed anything. What should they do?
I mean, violent revolution is the answer, but that isn’t mutually exclusive to voting
I’m saying electoralism does not work. And Americans won’t unify their labor power. Stochastic terrorism it is.
