“Don’t hang out with these people, they’re tankies!”, the liberals in the walls told me, and an apparent 90% of my fellow anarchists concurred, “We do NOT fraternize with the tankies!”

Thus I hesitated, seeing the link to !chapotraphouse@hexbear.net appearing on my screen. My heart pounded; I felt like Indiana Jones about to swap the golden idol for a bag of sand. I knew that what I did next could haunt me for the rest of my life. Thoughts raced through my mind: what if I ended up in some sort of dreaded echo chamber and became one of… them?

— My stomach turned, but regardless, Lady Curiosity in that moment descended behind me. She grabbed my trembling hand, moved the mouse cursor over the link, and clicked it.

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“What the fuck these people are all gay and based as hell”

*Postmill

Raddle is the main instance of postmill. Also:

Yes, I messed it up, I’m sorry. It’s because this time, when I started writing the code, I used my old repositories and snippets (back then, I was heavily inspired by Postmill). I wasn’t sure if the project would even leave my drawer, so I didn’t focus on it, I was just prototyping. I had plans to organize everything before the release of the first alpha version. This is my first major open-source project, and I haven’t developed good habits yet. So I have no excuse for myself. All I can do is apologize to Emma and all the PM contributors. I will fix it as a priority. 👍 - Ernest (kbin dev)

[…] I’m fine with you using them under attribution. - LitigiousEmma (postmill dev)

See https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/196

Also: Postmill is licensed under Zlib license not GPL. Even if, this would violate GPLs terms, as Ernest did not attribute the code to Emma.

TL;DR: Some of the of the kbin source code was copied from/based on postmill, but its an issue of attribution. Some of kbins source code is original, as kbin has features (most notably federation) that postmill does not. This issue also only applies to kbins backend.

Getting mad at everything built using open source because stealing is wrong

Edit: It looks like the license issues has not been solved yet even though the author of postmill reported the issue about two months ago, for more info see here: https://raddle.me/f/fediverse/170274/a-reminder-that-kbin-is-still-violating-the-zlib-license-of

The original post is exaggerating (not all the Kbin code is stolen code), but the Kbin creator used code from a different open source project without any attribution, so for a while it was, to an extent, similar to “stolen code”. Last I checked, the issue was resolved ~amicably, the kbin person provided attribution, and the original creator was satisfied (although I did read her say she was discouraged from continuing her project because she would have appreciated contributions to hers, instead of forking/not attributing).

Sorry, but could you back up your claims? Also, while dude is often used in a gender neutral manner, alternatives exist which don’t come from gendered language which I think are more appropriate, as ziq appears to be nonbinary.

It’s because liberals contribute nothing useful to society but are more than happy to steal and take credit for other people’s hard work like the leeches they are.

The politics of the authors matters. The politics of the authors sets the project priorities, determines which features are essential and which features will never be implemented. Running a social media site is a commitment. It requires maintenance. It requires interaction with the developers to troubleshoot problems, fix bugs, add features, etc. I absolutely would not run a social media platform developed by fascists. That would put me in a position where I rely on fascists for technical support, where the fascists understand my own infrastructure better than I do. It would also mean that no features which undermine fascist ideology would likely be developed.

In addition to being a piece of tech, Lemmy takes on the form of its authors’ politics. Despite them being Communists, this form is a vaguely anarcho-syndicalist one. A federation of autonomous communities. It is a form which allows each community to set their own standards and operate as they see fit. If one believes them to be the stereotypical censorious authoritarians, this should introduce some cognitive dissonance. If a person like this can look at the tech and appreciate the form, but then reject it because “tankies,” it demonstrates a lack of understanding about the underlying problems. They can try to replicate the project in a “non-tankie” form, but they won’t succeed unless they deeply analyze the landscape they are operating in. And if they did deeply analyze the landscape they are operating in, they would more-or-less arrive at the same conclusions as the Lemmy devs vis-à-vis the political economy of social media.

the code is tankie! just using lemmy gives them power! the tankies are in the walls!

First I’d hear of this. I looked at the source code of both repos (the raddle.me repo is called Postmill). There’s no relation at all. Both repos have history going back at least a couple of years. Kbin says in the readme it is inspired - not based on - Postmill. But even if it was, they’re both open source! The whole point of open source is that you can reuse other people’s code to make your own thing!!!

EdgyEmma’s face when her open source project is forked:

Apparently there was an issue with attribution that was resolved