• Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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    4 days ago

    Most conservatives I know now acknowledge climate change is real they just don’t care. It’s so frustrating hearing these dudes say it wasn’t real, then it wasn’t man made, then it’s not feasible to stop, and now just “we don’t care.”

    The moving of the goal posts is infuriating. Admit that you were fucking wrong and start fucking listening to the people who see right.

    • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOPM
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      Saying it wasn’t real, wasn’t man-made, has always been a fib and they’ve always known it’s a fib. They’ll be dead, so they don’t care that the world will be uninhabitable for future generations.

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    I’ve now seen “corporate capitalism” on more than one occasion and I don’t understand what distinction it’s trying to draw from plain capitalism. What am I missing?

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      Corporate, meaning the legal protections of incorporation, scaled to preposterous size.

      Every Denny’s should be blown to smithereens, but I’m not opposed to the kind of capitalism where a couple of people own a restaurant, paying some people a decent wage and feeding me ham, & eggs for $8.99.

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        thanks for the explanation, I can see your point which I think is that some narrow and heavily regulated capitalist systems would be compatible with sustainable living.

        I don’t see it as practical or meaningful enough of a distinction but it clarifies things.

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      In theory, there is also “laissez-faire capitalism” which also boils down to deregulation, but in a less direct way.

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        Yeah I guess I’m wondering what form of capitalism OP thinks doesn’t have this problem, as implied to me by the specificity.

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    4 days ago

    Just going to make a rant about “anti-capitalism”, that is only meant to add precision to the language you use over what you get angry about.

    The profit motive is never going away. Free markets, that must be fair to be free, have significant advantages over a state monopoly on a good. The main benefit being disruption/improvement is possible/encouraged.

    The problem with late stage oligarchy, is corporatism = supremacy of corporate profits, and the largest corporation owning/deciding government, is that they just want corrupt markets that protect all of their assets/gains/control so far. The US may not have an oil workers union, but their autoworkers unions don’t like disruption either. A completely communist USA might still prefer “energy dominance” and a big 3 automaker ICE vehicles monopoly.

    Disruption means allowing new energy that is not only cheaper, but also avoids the long term sustainability costs of GHG emissions. A carbon tax, right amount = $300/ton = $3/gallon gasoline, whose revenue is paid to residents as an equal dividend is a market policy that directly encourages any disruption and personal behaviour meant to just avoid the tax, or compete against those who don’t try to avoid the tax. It’s not based on BS promises to be greener in future. It does not end when a government rewards its oligarchs by distracting from human sustainability by waging war on Russia. Climate sustainability is not based on getting your own country to dominate through tariffs/subsidy an energy transition, which also happens to be oligarchy/communism agnostic.

    Those who do something will get to profit from doing something. Those who can’t, lose. Instead of relying on BS promises of Carbon capture or nuclear energy, we can let people invest in it if it is not a stupid idea.

    Carbon dividends, also helps make a broader UBI more affordable. UBI means not being so desperate to keep a useless/destructive job, and getting politicians to pander for you to keep your destructive job.

    • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOPM
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      4 days ago

      Probably. I always ignored and mocked those warnings, like they’re ignoring and mocking climate change.