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          And can we ve honest? It is a huge insult to the intelligence of Both MAGA people and liberal people to assume that they dont understand their own vision or they dont REALLY know what they want.

          Marxism isnt infalllibly compelling. There are PLENTY of people who have cracked open the theory and walked away particularly repulsed by the notions.

          PatSocs need to start believing that conservatives might actually mean what they say.

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              It probably has less likely to do with income numbers than it does where that income comes from. It’s the workers that have their wealth tied to the stock market which gives them more of an interest in preserving capitalism.

              But that doesn’t mean they are “hopeless.” Communist revolutionary ideas can and have existed among all classes, even the bourgeoisie.

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              this demonstrates how seldom you speak with construction workers, I’ve found that my construction buddies are far more receptive towards marxism than my well-educated liberal peers who I fucking hate

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              That’s not necessarily true. 50k doesn’t go that far in the US. They could be deprogrammed and see they would be better off if the workers ran the company.

              It’s an uphill battle, but you also can’t just write off everyone. Most people can’t even accurately describe capitalism.

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                  There is no “lost cause”, anyone who is working class can be convinced in the right material conditions. Once the unequal exchange from imperialism disappears due to revolutions in the third world, theyll be convinced. Stop it with the third worldism.

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      that the bourgeoisie has constructed artificial controlled opposition within the progressive movement, similar to the Congress for Cultural Freedom