Oversimplified but yeah pretty much. They destroyed the crops, animals and the machinery, attacked and killed collective farmers, sold hoarded food for exorbitant prices and then made a surprised pikachu face when there was a famine.
Only genocide that happened there was when the Nazis came and did one with the help of the Ukrainian nationalists.
No. There was a famine, but USSR did everything to alleviate it, not cause it. The cause of famine was as usual drought (and it had much wider range than just Ukraine, yet we don’t ever hear about “genocide” of Russians or Kazakhs). Kulaks burning crops and slaughtering animals worsened it.
There also one more thing, the problem with kulaks, famine and collectivisation. Often you will hear that collectivisiation made the famine worse, and while surely it did, no chance that wide restructurisation of agriculture against actively resistant group like kulaks won’t cause some problems, but not only those are greatly exaggerated since collectivisation worked and the food supply increased wherever it was implemented, but you must ask yourself a question, why was it done?
The answer is “kulaks” - that group (which was actively created en masse by tsarist Stolypin regime since 1905 revolution failure as a reactionary support base in the country) was notorious for speculation often causing shortages on their own, absolutely dangerous thing in the backward agriculture like in Russia - just compare with artificial famine in Ireland for example - and were actively resisting any attempts to make situation better.
wait what… is this true?
Oversimplified but yeah pretty much. They destroyed the crops, animals and the machinery, attacked and killed collective farmers, sold hoarded food for exorbitant prices and then made a surprised pikachu face when there was a famine.
Only genocide that happened there was when the Nazis came and did one with the help of the Ukrainian nationalists.
Yeap, libs love to forget about kulak terror attacks against those who willingly joined kolkhozes, or trying to find shitty excuse or justification.
So it was or was not a genocide in Ukraine?
No. There was a famine, but USSR did everything to alleviate it, not cause it. The cause of famine was as usual drought (and it had much wider range than just Ukraine, yet we don’t ever hear about “genocide” of Russians or Kazakhs). Kulaks burning crops and slaughtering animals worsened it.
There also one more thing, the problem with kulaks, famine and collectivisation. Often you will hear that collectivisiation made the famine worse, and while surely it did, no chance that wide restructurisation of agriculture against actively resistant group like kulaks won’t cause some problems, but not only those are greatly exaggerated since collectivisation worked and the food supply increased wherever it was implemented, but you must ask yourself a question, why was it done?
The answer is “kulaks” - that group (which was actively created en masse by tsarist Stolypin regime since 1905 revolution failure as a reactionary support base in the country) was notorious for speculation often causing shortages on their own, absolutely dangerous thing in the backward agriculture like in Russia - just compare with artificial famine in Ireland for example - and were actively resisting any attempts to make situation better.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gxwhh-vdeB--47HM-20cEVRC9eAMhrapbNf0Sk8VSOs/edit#heading=h.m06xr15ybjlv