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The unmanned craft was due to make a soft landing on the Moon’s south pole, but failed after encountering problems as it moved into its pre-landing orbit.

It was Russia’s first Moon mission in almost 50 years.

Russia has been racing to the Moon’s south pole against India, whose Chandrayaan-3 spacecraft is scheduled to land on there next week.

No country has ever landed on the south pole before, although both the US and China have landed softly on the Moon’s surface.

No report on whether or not Russia was attempting to use repurposed anti-ship missiles like the ones they use to attack schools and hospitals here on Earth.

  • RuthlessCriticism [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    This but unironically. In general though, there is nothing more galling than liberals complaining about Russia. You made it this way. This is on you. First you destroy the soviet union, then you reconfigure the politics and economy of Russia, and then you have the audacity to complain about the very thing you caused.

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      Ah yes, well known liberal checks notes George Bush.

      Russia cannibalised itself after the Soviet Union fell, didn’t need any Western help there.

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        The USA was attempting to destroy the USSR from day one. Despite being an extremely intelligent and educated person, you were never told that the USA actually invaded Russia within months of the October Revolution. Liberals are such a fucking joke.

        “The USSR destroyed itself.” Give me a break. The USA’s entire existence derives from stealing land from indigenous people and enslaving and exterminating them. Because the USSR dared to declare that it was an anti-colonial, anti-imperialist, and anti-capitalist project, the USA dedicated everything to its annihilation. But thankfully the story isn’t over. China never broke with Stalin.

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          My guy, China is the least socialist place on earth. It is so capitalist and so unequal. You pay to use the roads, you pay to use the hospitals, you pay for any schooling past middle school, if you don’t have a city residence permit your pension is 5% of those that do.

          Have you ever been?

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            Capitalism is when you pay for things, and the more you pay for things, the more capitalister it is. When atoms exchange valence electrons, for example, that’s capitalism right there. Entrepreneurship has been woven into the fabric of reality since God, the great investor in the sky, created it.

            What’s funny is that the US ruling class doesn’t pay for anything—they’re so rich and powerful specifically because they’re stealing from everyone else (including you)—yet nobody would argue that the US isn’t a capitalist hellhole in terminal decline.

            I have to wonder—if China isn’t a socialist country, why is every student there compelled to study Marxism? Isn’t it extremely dangerous for a country masquerading as socialist to expose every single student under its sovereignty to Marxist texts?

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              If socialism isn’t from each according to his means to each according to his needs then what the fuck is it?

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                The quote is “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs,” Mr. Marxism expert.

                Was capitalism built in a day? Do you think that Xi can just press the communism button and make everything instantly perfect everywhere? That’s not how it works. China is currently doing the USSR’s (and Stalin’s) NEP, but they’re doing it so much harder than Stalin ever did. They are literally hanging the capitalists with the rope the capitalists are selling them. Once the forces of production are built up to a point where everyone’s necessities are met—and once the USA is no longer in existence—it will become possible for the world to move forward into the next stage of history.

                Also I like how you didn’t answer the question about Marxism being taught to Chinese students. Because there is no answer. Because you are wrong 😉

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                  I was taught the tenets of Buddhism in my nationally-required Religious education lessons. Does that make me a Buddhist? Does that make my nation a Buddhist one?

                  There, your question is answered.

                  China has been peddling the same excuse about needing to get their economy up to a certain point before they can fully embrace communism since the Great Step Forward.

                  Meanwhile, there are 969 billionaires in China, it is the home of sweatshops and workers aren’t legally allowed to strike.

                  Soshulizm

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                    Oh noes, China has billionaires! I wonder if they are doing anything about them…

                    I was taught Catholicism from preschool up to highschool. Hell I’m no longer catholic, but the institution and the state that it serves is principally catholic because it pushes this “education” unto the general public.

                    Same goes for China, due to it propping Marxism and Marxist education in it’s institutions because of it being a Marxist state. If it were capitalist and owned by capitalists, it would take the path of the US and spread anti-communism within it’s population.

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                    I was taught the tenets of Buddhism in my nationally-required Religious education lessons. Does that make me a Buddhist? Does that make my nation a Buddhist one?

                    Maybe? Which country is this? You were also taught Buddhism because it is harmless to capitalism (with rare exceptions such as the monk who torched himself during the Vietnam War to protest American imperialism).

                    China has been peddling the same excuse about needing to get their economy up to a certain point before they can fully embrace communism since the Great Step Forward.

                    Tell me, if China embraced your version of communism (whatever the fuck it even is) right now, what would happen? Do you think that it might be better to wait until things are generally better (i.e. no USA waiting for any excuse to launch the nukes) before doing this?

                    Meanwhile, there are 969 billionaires in China

                    Where would you rather be a billionaire? China, or the USA? Why does Elon Musk never criticize China, yet he constantly criticizes the American government?

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            Capitalism is when exchange.

            In exchange for such a shit statement I could give a slap on the face and that would count as capitalism in your book.

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              If your idea of socialism is homeless people dying in the streets and people stepping over children because taking them to hospital lumbers you with their medical bills then, sure, China is as socialist as they come.

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                and people stepping over children because taking them to hospital lumbers you with their medical bills then

                This is an outdated trope from a defect in their liability laws that are mostly fixed.

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            In the sense of “liberal” as used in political philosophy or how the word is applied to party names in most countries around the world, yes Bush was a liberal. Americans tend to use the word differently though, since both major US parties are pro-business liberal parties, of a sort. This maybe applies a bit less to the Republicans today than in did in GHW Bush’s day, although by how much is still up for debate.

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        The bourgeoisie cannibalised Russia. Liberals from the west insisted that Russia and the rest of the Soviet republics would be ruled by the bourgeoisie. This was the whole point of the Cold War. At huge expense to its own citizenry the west conducted a series of proxy wars and led an arms race to make it as difficult as possible for workers to control their own destiny.

        As expected, false scarcity and extreme inequality followed, and to justify or explain this inequality, the bourgeoisie used from the usual ethnic and sexual minority scapegoats. With your weird understanding of history, you’re obviously American, so none of this should be hard to understand. You have people dying on the streets, the government won’t even raise the minimum wage, but the news about the evils of Mexicans, blacks, trans people, etc. never stops.

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        Wonder why it was made unstable in the first place? Ever wondered who contributed to the illegal dissolution of the USSR?

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          That states had to react to threats from the US never crosses their mind. The whole dissolution of the USSR and subsequent pillaging played out on the nightly news for years and I’ve never met a liberal that remembers it. They do vaguely remember that the USSR had an aggressive security state but can’t ever understand why.

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        Man, we needed you decades ago. Imagine how much money we could have saved on thr cold war. All that threatening to destroy the planet for nothing. The genocides we did? Judt big oopsies