Saw this years ago and honestly couldn’t be more fitting today.we should increase export taxes on all fronts to the US, until they agree to stop this bullshit 51st state crap etc.
I think there should be a ratcheting structure, like an additional 5.1% everytime it’s mentioned publicly by his regime.
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The only thing that makes sense is for Trump and Musk to take a rocket car to Mars.
Fuck you Trump
Because they’re giving into Russian propaganda
Russia is fighting in a war against the world and nobody cares.
Stop both siding this nonsense.
You should look up what that word means
That’s not what is happening. I know it’s upsetting that there are people who believe differently than you do. That’s what this article is about: that there exist people with some truly upsetting opinions, and furthermore, that we know a bit about their demographic make up.
The more you platform them the more voice and visibility they get, which ends up drawing support for this 51st nonsense. I don’t care to learn about the ignorant mindset of traitorous pieces of shit. They should stop voting for policies and parties that privilege the rich. But they’re too dumb for even that.
I don’t care to learn about the ignorant mindset of traitorous pieces of shit.
How the fuck else do you hope to… no, never mind. We’re not having a discussion, you’re just making emotional expressions. But I will say that this model of yours that says people do these things because they are stupid or “dumb” might help you cope emotionally, but it prevents you from reaching any genuine insight.
But I will say that this model of yours that says people do these things because they are stupid or “dumb” might help you cope emotionally, but it prevents you from reaching any genuine insight.
I’m not the person you were responding to but I just wanted to make perfectly clear that you are 100% full of shit.
It doesn’t give anyone ANY measure of “cope” that so many people are fucking stupid. Its terrifying, despairing, and awful. I would rather delusionally believe I could convince them of rational stances, now that would be cope.
There is a very important difference between “platforming” and “reporting” and you really should to learn what it is before you start policing people.
Platforming is perhaps the wrong term, maybe “selective reporting” and “cherry picking” fits better.
I recently met two Albertans out here in South Korea at a bar. They were on the other side of the bar from me, and when they walked past, I greeted them as an Ontarian and offered to shake their hands. They both declined the handshake and proudly announced, “We’re not on the same team.”
That was a few weeks ago. I’m still disturbed by it. I knew Albertans had a reputation because of the politicking there. But I hadn’t realized it would be so blatant. That same night, two South Africans happily asked me my thoughts on Trump, and I was perhaps too honest in my first statement, and they grew upset with me and insisted he was good for Canadians and South Africans, both.
I left the bar not long after. Haven’t seen those four come back, so there is a bright side to the story, at least.
They refused to shake your hand because you are from Ontario? What the heck… they need mental health care.
Its a low taxed province, which could mean lower services. Oil fields, and trucks. It attracts the type of person that cares about themselves rather than society. (I’m generalizing of course, there are good people there also) There’s a reason we call it Northern Texas, and it’s just not because of the cowboy hats.
Yeah you don’t get that in Alberta through
Well, that’s comforting to hear!
That’s just Alberta…
Angry that we’re not freezing in the dark.
Lol they should fucking stay in South Korea. They are definately in the minority, it’s a larger minority then most of Canadas opinion but goddamn they are still a minority. Should have told them to never fucking come back
No, I don’t want them here, haha. This is my future home, I don’t need that nonsense here! It’s also my friend’s bar, so I don’t particularly want to ruin business for him. But I did talk with him about it later.
Trump became President and I decided to start the process to get guns.
Say it louder; get disqualified from gun ownership. You’re not allowed to own guns because you think one day you might shoot people with them.
Conservative Americans in shambles reading this as they find out that we do Infact own guns in Canada and are proud to own them. We just don’t get all fucking pussy about not being able to own fully automatic ones with 50 round magazines lol.
Don’t forget to practice regularly.
ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA,
My company:
Has two shops 1 in Canada and 1 in the US; US shop now solely handles all American related jobs while Canada handles any job globally, besides the US.
Real smart play here ol trump
“Let’s kill all the jobs now for a few new kinds of jobs that probably won’t come to fruition” -Trump, American genius.
He’s gonna fucking invade, isn’t he?
It’s difficult to invade when in a recession and you have to deploy military against your own citizens to protect Tesla buildings.
The USA needs congressional approval to officially go to war against another sovereign nation. Like with Afghanistan or Iraq. BUT Republicans control the house and Senate, and sure if they’re that fucking delusional they could vote for it. But with that being said, it would 100% rip America apart and they fucking deserve it. Not only would we not put up with that shit and I would gladly shoot any foreign soldier on our land, it would mean the Russians getting exactly what they wanted.
Americans reading this, GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER or you or your friends are going to start fucking dying on our fucking land for no other reason than a fat orange fucks vanity. You will be ostracized by the developed world and I for one will never fucking forgive you.
Previous presidents have famously committed acts of war without the consent of congress. Including assassinations and drone strikes on civilians.
Oh 100%. But for a full fledged WAR? It takes a lot of congressional and public will power to do that. Just saying that for them to go ahead and declare war so easily with zero public insight, would cause them to rip themselves apart
The US has not “declared war” in decades. That’s early 20th century talk.
They voted for this. So I don’t have any sympathy for them saying Trump doesn’t represent them. He does. They go on and on about how they’re the greatest country in the world, and how their government is ‘of the people, by the people, for the people’. They’re more responsible for the actions of their government than any other nation is for theirs.
And the American mentality is that their pride will never let them admit if they’re wrong. So even though they may know that talks of annexation and taking away our country are beyond offensive, they can’t say it. They have to say that it’s for some greater good that no one else can see, even if they know it’s BS. But the problem is, short of NATO putting troops in our country to help fight off an invasion, I don’t know what would stop the US from just trying to take whatever they want in the name of ‘freedom’. And the funny thing is, on the Cato Human Freedom Index, which measures a person’s person, economic and civil freedom, we rank higher than the US. We’re #11, and the US, the leader of the free world, is #17. So how are they the ‘freest nation’ in the world? Why would we downgrade ourselves by joining them? We wouldn’t. No one would. Unless it was by force.
I’ve said this before, and I meant it then; the mentality of the US is that they’re basically a r***** telling their victim that if they lay down and let them (USA) have their way with them, they won’t get hurt. THAT’s the US right now. They’re our neighbours, but they’re NOT our friends. And they probably never were. They just finished hurting other nations, and decided to turn their attention to us.
Yup. But there is zero fucking chance we would let them take this place willy nilly. I will die before I yield any land to these facist thugs. As our countrymen and women fought before us, we will remain the true north strong and free, or we will DIE to defend it. The dreams of this great country of ours will never die
The National Post is a US billionaire owned right wing propaganda rag that most Canadians wouldn’t wipe their ass with. If they’re saying this it’s a warning that should be heeded.
We are a large, rugged country with huge areas to hide in full of large rugged people with guns.
We are a large, rugged country with huge areas to hide in full of large rugged people with guns.
Okay, but, so? We’re still occupied. People still died. Survivors are still traumatized. If it gets to the point where we’re living in caves on the escarpment and doing guerilla raids on Hamilton, WE HAVE ALREADY FUCKING LOST EVERYTHING OF IMPORTANCE. Get guns, fine, but I’ll be filling out my application for refugee status.
Looks like. All the signs are there and steps have been taken in preparation. The forcing of Canadians to register and get finger printed in the next 30 days was the icing on the cake. Now we wait and see how this unfolds.
Canada is doing some stuff as well. here is the official govt release about the move.
I’m no economist but here’s the best explanations
I read so far about what Canada is doing with this move (post-Carney’s arrival I might add).
He clearly wants Canada, but it’s not clear he wants it that bad. If he thinks more expensive electricity is a nasty move he’s probably not too hot about stuff and people blowing up.
I suspect the next few months will be a lot like the past one for Canada. Not better or worse.
I don’t see how he could. Too many people in the U.S. like Canada, the domestic support would be near nill.
Maybe if he had 6-10 more years to drum up support.
A lot of people in the US will say they don’t support it, and will speak out against it, but when the forces deploy, the American people won’t do anything to stop it. They won’t stage walkouts, or take actions that will cripple their economy at home in protest, because it will cause them inconvenience and pain.
They’ll just say they’re against it, that they’re morally outraged, and will offer ‘thoughts and prayers’. Nothing more.
Some of them will enlist.
The problem is this harmful and terrifying idea of annexing Canada will remain even after trump is gone. Vance is a young dude, him or whoever is the successor will advance Trunps policies and priorities, after the next president even. Canada needs to shift away from the US long term.
Is it bad that I want him to try?
Historically, the US has never acquired territory by force, and even then Emperor Clementine would need a 2/3 majority vote in the Senate to ratify and prove the annexation was legal, which I doubt he’ll get.
F*ck around and find out, as it were.
I dunno, is it bad that you’ve brainwashed yourself and are now actively radicalizing yourself? It’s a judgement call.
Historically, the US has never acquired territory by force
Fucking What
Was your historian a rabid white supremacist who pretends none of the Indian Wars happened, much less the Mexican or Spanish-American Wars?
- since world war 2
No, you’re absolutely correct! I meant it more along the lines of the “We take nothing by conquest” rhetoric, which is equally hypocritical considering the reality. I didn’t really want to add an “/s” to the statement… Yes, the US killed a lot of people in Mexican territory, but then they made up a treaty and paid $15mil for half of the land 🤷 (heavily simplified).
But it’s 2025, and I’m honestly not sure if the geopolitical climate is in a better or worse state than it was 170 years ago. And if not worse on average, it’s definitely widely polarized.
Yes, it’s bad. We’d lose. Maybe they’d lose too, but if so it’s going to involve Taliban-like timelines and Afghanistan-like living conditions that whole time.
Yeah, as much as I’d like to pretend it will also prompt the Second American Civil War and swathes of military officers refusing orders I simply don’t have faith in Americans to do the right thing.
It’s famously a lot easier to “just follow orders”, and they only need a fraction of their forces to agree to make it happen. I highly doubt they’d fight each other on our behalf, at least.
Ya I want him to try as well. I am so fucking sick of republicans and magats dragging down the entire human race. Can you imagine what the world would be like if bush didn’t steal the election from al gore? No war in the middle east, probably would have resulted is way better relations between countries all around the world. Would have resulted in more prosperity for everyone. Would have been a massive coordinated effort to fight climate change. They’d probably have healthcare by now. To this day republicans have been hell bent on destroying the world. I hope they come to Canada. Wiping them out would be the highest possible purpose my life could ever serve. Even if I could only take out one of those magat freaks with me, it would be worth it. Lets fucking go, ill be ready.
With the statements yesterday about the “artificially drawn border” it’s clear he wants southern Ontario.
Even if he fails, our quality of life would significantly decrease. Not really wanting to become an insurgent and get my brains blown out by a delta force operator or something. Not saying we should back down in any case, but the prospect of an invasion like that is scary af.
What about all the native land, and the Mexican-American war?
Well you’re not wrong, I think some dummies would say “acktually we bought it from Mexico”.
I liked this article from a couple months ago on the whole situation: https://www.dal.ca/news/2025/01/09/united-states-canada-state-51st.html
I also want him to try, mostly because I think that may finally be the straw that gets someone to successfully snipe him. All it will take is some pissed off hosier with better aim than the last guy.
Hosier is from Ireland. Hoosers are from Indiana. Hosers are from Canada.
Yes, because innocent people will die.
Honestly, Canada should shut down their border to the US period… I wish this could happen, but I feel it is unrealistic.
And get all our fucking data off Azure and AWS servers already. The fact we did this in the first place has bothered me since day 1. I don’t care if the data centres are in Canada, they’re owned by a foreign company and “trust me bro” isn’t a security policy.
I’m for it. It will hurt, but we’ll manage.
Won’t someone assassinate this senile fat fuck?
Ronald McDonald has been trying every damn day.
We like our women with bodily autonomy and with the right to choose.
We like our right to protest without the fear of being jailed and deported.
We like our heads of state to be respectful and respected on the world stage.
We like our right to privacy without surveillance, and our civil servants free from Krasnov’s oligarchs.
Most importantly, we like our beer to be unshittified!
Sincerely,
The Canadians who haven’t already fallen victim to your propaganda.
Might be time for a EU expansion
-We like our right to protest without the fear of being jailed and deported.
Maybe you should tell our universities, corporations and the RCMP about this.
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We’re having a bit of trouble with the protest one but I like your spirit!
Fuck off you demented old fool.
So we charged them 25% more for our electricity and his response is to charge his own citizens 25% more??
Wow
He just really likes raising taxes.
Russia’s objective isn’t tariffs – it’s to splinter/decouple international coordination and cooperation amongst western nations.
So, yeah. The faster Trump can accelerate that, the happier his boss’ll be.
Like the buy[local] type campaigns are most likely getting a bit of a bump from Russian propaganda agents – even if they are ‘real’ sentiments to some extent too.
I think there’s a plan to entertain the US with some conflict while Russia does some shit so it can’t intervene later on. Their only true opposition as far as tech goes is the US army so it makes sense to disable it. I also have a feeling part of this is an attempt to normalize the invasion of other countries. And what better way to accomplish it all than to push the US out of NATO so the former Soviet countries are easy pickings for Russia.
It’s like watching the Kremlin call the shots at this point. What Trump is doing makes no sense without thinking What Would Putin Do?
I’d agree to some extent, but I honestly think it’s a bit more nuanced than a direct “He’s doing what Putin wants” situation – as it’s also what the various groups backing Trump in the states want (the folks who were all in on Project 2025). I find it easier to understand as a conflict between an “egalitarian” world view, and an “authoritarian” one. Putin, and Trump’s crowd, are clearly on the authoritarian side.
Someone recently pointed out to me that this view of it also aligns to the difference between the greek orthodox church and the roman catholics. In the latter, the translation of the bible into different languages meant individuals were encouraged to read the bible, and determine (in part on their own) how best to avoid hell; in the orthodox approach, it was entirely up to the priests to inform the masses what they had to do to avoid hell, as only the priests could read latin. Russia’s still very much of the orthodox approach – and in the US, many of those mega pastor sorts have pushed in this direction as well. So their interests line up.
That authoritarian mindset also lines up with big tech, and the whole Yarvin nonsense. It lines up with the blanket firing approach and terrorization of the federal work force, to make them more subserviant/compliant. And it generally lines up with the Russian view that the world should be cut up into like 4 blocks, with a ‘strong man’ leading each block. That division that was pushed forward by Dugin, generally “gives” north America to the US.
What’s that flushing sound I hear? Oh, it’s just the US economy.
He’ll raise taxes on Americans again too, if Canada doesnt shape up!
Bring it the fuck on yam tits. Lets fucking go. Send in your cultist freaks I can’t wait to blow some yank limbs off.
