Not sure why Signal gets all the attention when Matrix is much more successful at spreading open source messaging and is also decentralized.
Not sure why Signal gets all the attention when Matrix is much more successful at spreading open source messaging and is also decentralized.
Signal has a lot of things going for it Matrix doesn’t have… more convenient, simpler, easier to use, more focus on privacy, better calling. Matrix does some things Signal does, but they have different feature sets really. Matrix being free software, unfortunately, doesn’t matter to most people. Matrix also arguably isn’t really about security and privacy. It’s more of a universal chat platform, so they don’t compete directly.
The fact the Matrix is usually marketed as a platform for secure and private communications is somewhat difficult to understand.
I think the reason they are considered similar is the usage of Double Ratchet encryption.
I don’t think Signal is much easier than Matrix. This is why I’m so excited about Telegram. Telegram’s an easy to use and feature rich chat app that also has open source clients and decent Linux support. It’s great for using with non-techie friends. Matrix is great for using with techie friends. Signal is somewhere in between, and doesn’t really fullfill either role.
but Telegram doesn’t even have encyption, lol
Of course it does. It just doesn’t have E2E encryption by default (you can turn it on with secret chats). If the alternative is messaging on Instagram, Facebook Messenger or WhatzApp, then Telegram is superiour.
listen to yourself, it doesn’t have e2e encryption by default?? So the telegram servers can see your chats, that’s not acceptable for a chat software.
e2e also doesn’t work in groups on telegram the last time I checked, so the chat with a couple of friends is out for grabs by whatever jurisdiction telegram is operating under as well, great.
Signal is like 5 times better than this, so is whatsapp (depends though) and of course matrix or xmpp. Comparing it to instagram messaging is a joke.
We actually don’t know what WhatsApp is doing. It’s a closed source app, so there is nothing preventing Facebook from getting your keys and reading your chats. It just takes one national security letter to force them.
Telegram wins because it’s usable by non-techies. And has open source clients. And has a decent Linux client. It’s preferable to chatting over Instagram.
@thervingi
I would still much rather chat to people over whatsapp than telegram because at least whatsapp has E2EE by default.
@sexy_peach
Why do you think WhatsApp has E2EE? It’s a closed source app. There is nothing preventing Facebook from grabbing your keys.
@thervingi
Probably the fact that if news slipped out, it would have been (one of) the biggest scandles facebook has ever done, and I dont personally think its worth the risk for them.
on Telegram they wouldn’t even have to grab your keys, they can just run data collection on all their users unnoticed, without breaking any promises.
Man, I get this, but you’re late the party. Telegram was exciting 8 years ago. :)
The recently have reached around 700 Million users. Telegram is de-Facebooking the internet faster than anything else.
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