Post is not intended to criticize or endorse the party, but to display bigotry of this particular member.

While people who are scared of gays as if they’re some toxic living bioweapon coming after them and their children are usually despicable, keep in mind it was written by a person in their 70s. (I really really don’t want to defend them)

Translation: [Content in square brackets is my comments/potential mistranslations]

I.I. Nikitchuk: “Against nature…”

“If man thinks he’s Napoleon - he’s put in a psych ward, but if he declares he’s a woman his rights are vehemently defended!” - M. Zhvanetskiy

2015-10-31 00:41

It is no one’s secret that propaganda of homosexuality as…a normal healthy lifestyle presents a major danger in modern Russian society. Legalization of homosexual lifestyle in Western countries leads to glorification [praise?] of sexual minorities’ behavior by means of mass information, and, as a consequence - transformation of social consciousness. [society’s consciousness?]

Additionally, in the Russian Federation the gay-lobby tries to spread its presence everywhere. It reigns supreme [no it fucking doesn’t] not only in show-biz and related spheres, but also…in politics. Such growth in influence of gay-community in recent times is explainable and natural [logical?]. In era of dissolution of major structures and systems (among which the USSR can be placed) various deviant and abominable [it says “odious”] personalities emerge onto the foreground, including from ranks of sexual minorities

In psychiatry two forms of homosexuality are distinguished: open (with active manifestation of same-sex attraction, [sexual?] relationships with persons of same sex) and latent form. The first form is the one dangerous for society.

In its essence, homosexuality is a gigantic threat to every normal person, which can endanger their children and grandchildren, thus ending his genus. And since in biological sense non-replication is the same as death in the end, then homosexuality is a deadly threat for the entirety of mankind.

Translation end.

Rest of article is filled with dread over decline of population, child abuse (cites Israeli doctor), “ruminations” on Ancient Greece; mentions USSR law against gays (article 154a in RSFSR criminal code, in later revisions - 121; punishment - 8 years prison tops, claims it was authorized by Stalin after report by Yagoda, idk); claims anti-gay law was cancelled in Ukrainian SSR on 12.12.1991. Later article makes shit up on reduction of age of consent in western countries, resorting to scare people w/ pedophilia.

End of article goes as follows:

“In light of above mentioned factors, we suggest to fill the existing blind spot in Russian law with legislation designed by us - “About changes in RF Codex of administrative crimes” (in part of establishing responsibility for public expression of nontraditional sexual relations), with which it is suggested to add new administrative responsibility for new violation in sphere of social ethics [morality?], associated with encroachment upon traditional social rules: public expression of nontraditional homosexual relations, consisting of public public demonstrations of their own warped sexual preferences in social spaces. Adoption of the bill will be directed towards strengthening public morals and health of our citizens.”

I believe it was a recording of a speech, given to pass a shit law. It took me like half an hour to translate this drivel, bruh. Not worth the effort.

article link: https://kprf.ru/dep/gosduma/activities/147926.html

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    The comrades within the KKE and the CPRF are correct about many, many things.

    This is un-Marxist, unscientific garbage that both parties love to continue spewing. Not even pseudoscience, just violently ignorant bullshit that they should be ashamed of peddling. Homophobia and homophobic legislature is a Western invention and was spread through the world like a plague by settler colonists and imperial governors over populations where homosexuality and breaks from gender conformity were the norm. Literally all over the world. Homophobia in China? The West. Japan? The West. The Islamic World? The West. Africa? The West. South America? The West!

    The KKE and CPRF and other parties with shit ideas related to LGBT struggle (CPGB-ML, etc.), however correct they are on imperialism 95% of the time, act as the running dogs for imperialist ideology whenever they peddle this homophobic bullshit. They should be ruthlessly criticized for this nonsense and hopefully the youth within these parties are struggling fiercely against it. Imperial powers may attempt to utilize “LGBT rights” NGOs to undermine developing nations’ self-determination, but do you know how to stop them? Discard the bourgeois, individualist “LGBT rights” the imperialists try to inject, and begin fighting for true LGBT liberation!

    https://kanaanonline.org/en/2015/01/20/britain-the-rise-of-wahhabism-and-the-house-of-saud/ On Britain’s direct involvement in the rise of Wahhabism in the Arab world, which led to disastrous consequences for LGBT people to this day where they were tolerated before | https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J236v07n01_08?journalCode=wzgp20 On the Qing empire and Republic of China’s “Westernization” projects that led to China regarding homosexuality as a psychiatric disorder | https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?id=GALE|A77712305&sid=googleScholar&v=2.1&it=r&linkaccess=abs&issn=15321118&p=AONE&sw=w&userGroupName=anon~faf6537d Japan’s westernization | http://www.glbtqarchive.com/ssh/russia_S.pdf On Russian Homophobia and its relation to westernization | https://www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us/news/african-sexuality-and-legacy-imported-homophobia On the colonial nature of African homophobia | The homophobic and transphobic effect of Catholic imperialism on culture all throughout South America is self-evident https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-mar-07-adfg-pottery7-story.html Spanish repression of LGBT Incans

    I could go on and on.

    edit: I saw on another post someone used the phrase “LGBT Rights with Chinese Characteristics” and I utterly adore this phrase. Fight for LGBT Rights with Russian Characteristics! LGBT Rights with Greek Characteristics! Don’t allow the imperial west to destroy your LGBT people, history and culture and then co-opt it for further imperial aims, forcefully reclaim it and shove it back in their face! This is what anti-imperialist LGBT struggle should be!

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      The equivocation of pedophilia and specifically pederasty with male homosexuality between consenting adults, as an argument, is also a pathetic misinterpretation of not only the history of actual LGBT people, but a gross disdain for these parties’ nations’ own histories and cultures. Anyone, while calling themselves a communist, who argues that there needs to be a “return” to putting homosexual men in gulags or prisons, is an idiot spewing fascist propaganda about their own people and the USSR, which went after actual pedophiles first and foremost, with some gay men being a casualty of faulty methods and ignorant fuck-ups. These gay men should not be remembered as enemies of the state rightfully imprisoned alongside pedophiles, but as innocent victims of unscientific and barbaric Westernized thinking that scientific socialists should strive to overcome. For fuck’s sake.

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    Sadly, a lot of people in the former SU are homophobic as fuck, both left and right. Most of it is just plain old bigotry, of course. But I also feel like a part of it as an unconscious and ignorant reaction towards the kind of “rainbow imperialism” US and its allies are weaponizing nowadays. Imperialists and colonizers remain as such however many LGBT people are in their ranks and however many rainbow flags they paint on the bombs, and people correctly recognize US as imperialists. However, due to their bigotry and ignorance they can’t separate the imperialism from supporting LGBT rights, and in their minds it all melts into a horrific absurdity of “US is trying to oppress us and turn us all gay”.

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      The failure to purge the bourgeoisie religion during the early days of the SU is almost certainly a major factor at play here.

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    Here in Balkans people can’t just shut the fuck up about wanting to murder all the gays for 1 DAY! Lierally some dingus was host on populat TV show where they talk bullshit 24/7 and said that he is ‘‘not homophobe’’ because he has LGBT friends who are also disgusted by ‘‘propaganda’’ and then procceeds to shit on LGBT ‘‘propaganda’’ and how we must stop it…

    Translation: send all LGBT people to concentration camps and burn them on stakes…

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      Yes. Funnily enough, they’re not the only party we have with communism in name and official ideology. They’re just the oldest one. There’s also “Communists of Russia”, which split off some years ago, plus a number of others whose name eludes me. Plus some non-parliament, semi underground Orgs.

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        Well a party that doesn’t support gay freedom is one that doesn’t support workers freedom so I strongly insinuate that this CPRF does not represent the spirit of the former Soviet Union, I’m really hoping we don’t have fraternal relations with them. We condemn critically Cuba for this historical shit man like its like they studied Cuba and took all the bad parts.

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          They are literally the successors of the CPSU (КПСС, communist party of the Soviet Union). Their leader is Gennady Zyuganov, a name I’m sure you’ve heard of at some point. He ran against Yeltsin for president in the 90’s and had almost won.

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            You realize you can be named something and not embody the spirit of it. Amnesty international, cpusa, acp. Lenin would have shot all involved

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      One other org that I know is Workers’ Party of Russia (Рабочая Партяи России)

      They require their members to study Marxism-Leninism and provide an opportunity to study it at a “Red University”. To understand dialectics better, I believe their members are also required to study Hegel. (in a translation of Hegel that is deemed not shit/not revisionist) IIRC they also helped organize some port workers’ strike.

      One of their members is president of Fund of Worker Academy (Фонд Рабочей Академии, it’s supporting workers in education) M.V. Popov, who appears on media somewhat frequently. I think they know philosophy very well.

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    This measure did not receive much of a response from the public, it seems. Here are some YT comments. (only ones I found, bruh)

    TL: [Video title Reds vs Blues [it means gays]. CPRF wants to jail gays]

    Comments in order: “Support”, “Red and Blue is a bad color match” [no it fucking isn’t. they’re complementary], “Haven’t heard such good [healthy] ideas from CPRF in a long time. Sodomy should be driven out. Let them do their things at home, children must not see. In Russia people must think of children and family, not about sexual deviancies”, “It’s better to sew the hole closed”, “Better is 6 years in SIberia. I am communist myself.”

    I also found an article from about the same time on a news aggregator.

    Translation:

    Title: In CPRF it was suggested to arrest homosexuals who came out

    CPRF depuuties suggested to implement administrative punishment in form of a fine or arrest for public expression of nontraditional sexual orientation

    Text under image: LGBT-activist during a one person picket against hate and intolerance on Palace Square

    Communist suggest to implement administrative responsibility for coming out in form of fines in amount of 4 to 5 thousand rubles, or 15 days arrest.

    Legislation was prepared by members of CPRF - first deputy chairman Ivan Nikitchuk and deputy chairman of committee on economic policy Nikolai Arefyev, writes “Izvestiya”.