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    Can you link one article from Jacobin that is such a scathing criticism that a despotic regime would not allow the publishing of?

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      Uh… most of every single edition? It’s literally devoted to ending capitalism. Just to name a single journalist out of over a hundred Chinese journalists arrested and an untold number intimidated, Zhang Zhan. She was critical of the handling of the COVID-19 pandemic in Wuhan, and for that was convicted of “picking quarrels and provoking trouble”, which is a blanket charge for “we don’t like you”. She is now serving a 4 year prison sentence, while Jacobin happily publishes weekly unhindered by the evil capitalists that are quite happy to allow their infrastructure to be used to plot their downfall.

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          I only speak English, so I’m going to have to rely on machine translation.

          Zhang Zhan was scolded by the whole network back then. You shouldn’t reflect on what Zhang Zhan said caused the anger of the whole network.

          I don’t know if this is just a poor translation, but nowhere in here do I hear a good reason for imprisoning and silencing someone. It just sounds like the Party is thin skinned.

          • 张展在香港返送中运动时在中国大陆的城市中打出标语”中国共产党下台“为什么没有被判刑?因为没有人民群众知道这件事,没有人骂他。而后来张展对武汉抗议的不客观不真实报道被揭露,评论都在骂张展,这下是人民群众都在骂他了。你自己想想给张展判刑是共产党的意愿还是人民的意愿?

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              This is the translation I’m working off:

              Why was Zhang Zhan not sentenced to a slogan in cities in mainland China when he was campaigning for the return of the Chinese Communist Party in Hong Kong? Because no people knew about it, no one scolds him. Later, Zhang Zhan’s inaccurate and untrue report on the Wuhan protests was exposed. The comments were all scolding Zhang Zhan, and now the people are scolding him. Do you think about whether Zhang Zhan’s sentence is the will of the Communist Party or the will of the people?

              First, Zhang Zhan was targeted by the police for actions in support of various causes. Merely speaking or working in support of a cause wouldn’t get someone a prison sentence.

              Second, it’s worth noting that referring to all the comments as scolding Zhang Zhan is fallacious. Opposition commentary is routinely scrubbed from the Internet. Under an environment like that, there’s no way to tell how many people were in support. It’s also impossible to have an informed citizenry because the only thought that can exist is enslaved to the Communist Party.

              Third, I was just using Zhang Zhan as an example. There are many other examples of people being arbitrary detained or imprisoned for criticizing the CPC. This same type of criticism is highly protected at least in the US.

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                  I concluded that this wasn’t a productive conversation. I’m used to very strict press freedoms. Maybe not perfect, but leagues better than China. China just doesn’t have that. Journalists can and routinely are detained merely for what they said. It may not be as bad as the most despotic countries, but it’s not a country with a free press.

              • PX项目事件是完全和平的,还被中国媒体广泛报道。而某位”民主斗士“广泛传播的言论称其”流了许多血“并且有超过一千的转发。这已经不是批评了,而是造谣。然而这位”民主斗士“至今还没有遭到监禁。这位”民主斗士“本人就在中国新疆。你的”例子“到底都是从西方宣传中得知的,中国将维吾尔族人关进集中营也是来自西方宣传。有些信息是真实的,有些信息是部分真实的,有些信息是完全虚假的。你固然没有能力调查这些信息的真实性,但你却选择无条件相信。如果你认为此类批评受到高度保护,别忘了特朗普在这几天才遭到搜查。这就是高度保护吗?

              • 你都不会中文,那你也没上过中文互联网。谁告诉你反对派言论总被从网上删除?知乎里全是骂中国吹美国的,你在知乎说中国好还要被人骂,被删了吗?没有。QQ空间全是”网络左派“与自由派。有一个拥有十万粉丝的哔哩哔哩LGBT博主,DD第二代,在微博上反对他人骂台独,辱骂毛泽东,称毛泽东、斯大林等人都是虚假的马克思主义者,还使用谐音说他人是支那人(支那人的意思就像ChingChong),在几个月的举报后他的微博才被封。没有。这就是你所谓的反对言论总被删除?这些言论已经不仅仅是反对了,而是对他人的侮辱。为什么骂中国吹美国的人和自由派没有表达对张展的支持?因为张展被注意到的时候美国与其他欧洲国家已经死了几十万人了。张展的文章标题”满地无主手机“证明张展认为中国有很多人因COVID而死,而为什么中国会死这么多人?张展认为这是因为中国的制度落后于欧美的民主制度。张展发表这些文章时COVID的绝大多数死亡案例都在中国。然而在张展被人们注意到时,它的观点早已被证明是完全错误的,因此中国的反对派固然不会支持张展。或者说中国网民都反对张展,你怎么还说得出是”任意监禁“?

          • 整个中国互联网当年都在声讨张展和方方两位“大作家”,张展在香港暴乱时公开上街支持香港返送中运动,结果没人理他,路人看到还报警了。给张展判刑与其说是中共的意愿不如说是中国人民的意志。张展的文章《当最基本的生存权都无法保障时,政府和国家还有意义吗》《人命重要还是权力重要》《纷争:防疫防控已经成为大于民生的政绩工程,恐造成又一轮新灾难》《威权防疫后果在持续显现》放在现在结合”民主国家“的死亡人数,后遗症率,”大作家“张展对中国防疫政策的”批评“最终都落到”民主国家“头上了,也难怪会引起全互联网的愤怒