This is not a fact but your opinion, based on the cherry-picked information.
No, this is based on the actual facts that are available. These facts are stated by western entities such as the Pentagon and British military think tanks. These are also becoming increasingly admitted in western mainstream media.
What we are seeing is western economies transforming to a more self-sufficient ones, and not being reliable to Russia. Of course it takes its toll at the beginning, but it’s already showing that things are getting easier when time goes by. Russia has been relying too much to their energy politics and expecting everyone will come back eventually. That’s not happening.
That’s an interesting euphemism to say that they’re collapsing to third world standards. It’s pretty clear that you don’t understand much about energy usage in Europe or how global energy production works.
These deals are made only because there are people in power that the people actually seem to dispise. And mostly because if the option is to increase prices, those in power are not going to be elected again. So they’re just trying to keep their position. It has nothing to do with “refusing to play ball”.
A strange statement given that Orban just handily won the election. Seems like the governments people are increasingly coming to despite are in UK, France, Germany, and Italy where they have either collapsed or are in the process of collapsing.
This is the main issue here: Russia is demanding something from a sovereign nation. It’s up to Ukraine what they decide to do. There’s no one that should have any power to decide instead of them. Also: invading Crimea and then demanding neutrality…? Wtf.
This statement shows an incredibly childish understanding of geopolitics.
You haven’t debunked a single claim I made about Finland.
I have, and I’ve repeatedly explained how. Your reading comprehension really needs work. Once again using small words. Finland prolongs suffering of people in Ukraine with no benefit to the people of Ukraine.
You are thinking winning and losing too black and white. Russia already lost one when they failed to invade Kyiv. That one Ukraine won. It depends on the outcome who loses and wins, and what.
First of all, I haven’t seen Russia claim anywhere that taking Kyiv was their stated objective. What Russia said was that the objectives demilitarization of Ukraine and backing independence of Donbas. Both of these objectives are currently being achieved.
However, the bigger picture here is the geopolitical realignment that’s happening. The west failed to get majority of the countries in the world to side with it against Russia. We’re now seeing a new economic system developing that’s completely separate from the western financial system. The winners from this debacle will be US, China, Russia, and the biggest loser will be Europe. The unipolar world dominated by the west is now gone forever.
When speaking about electricity markets in Finland, the prices are increasing now but we are actually going to be self-sufficient in electricity production next year. So, expecting a crash next spring. Other countries with more dependency with Russia are of course having a hard time.
Last I checked Europe is a bit bigger than Finland.
And you, an anonymous Internet troll claims to be an expert? Don’t make me laugh.
No, I claim that experts like Pentagon and RUSI are experts. All my claims are backed by what western militaries are saying as opposed to tabloid news you like to reference.
I think you need to work on your reading because I have not made any claims related to prolonging anyones’s suffering.
Of course you have, you back Finland prolonging the war and that is the direct outcome.
EDIT: And now, after switching the talk AGAIN to geopolitics, are you ready to condemn the atrocities made by Russia? We’ve seen you condemn US, NATO and west already.
Of course, any atrocities committed by Russia are as reprehensible as those by NATO and its allies. Why would that be hard for me to say exactly?
This is also false. It’s a small minority of countries that actually support Russia.
This is literally false. Take a look at the UN vote to condemn Russia. Most countries either voted against or abstained. The west was isolated and failed to get any further support since.
Yes. But Finland is in Europe and gives one example. Just like you gave a link to UK’s situation. Europe is bigger than UK.
Look at who’s cherry picking. How are things going in Germany, Italy, and all the other countries where the economies are crashing.
Then can you explain why majority of countries are behaving the opposite the experts you quote say? Last time I checked goverments listen to their experts.
If governments listened to their experts then the west would’ve never started an economic war with Russia. All the experts warned against it.
Again, this is only your opinion. Not a false claim made by me.
The false claim made by you is that Ukraine can win this war. This claim is at odds with the facts.
Because you haven’t condemned those before.
I have in many previous discussions.
What’s your opinion about the latest war crimes, like forcing people in the eastern Ukraine to fight on Russia’s side?
Same as my opinion on other batshit insane things you make up. These are products of a deeply disturbed and deranged mind.
Or making the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant as a tool for blackmail?
How is Russia using a nuclear power plant as a tool for blackmail?
What? This is false. I’m not sure what is your understanding about “most countries”. How the vote actually went: “In an emergency session, 141 of the 193 member states voted for the resolution, (to condemn Russia) 35 abstained and five voted against”, so you are talking straight BS again.
What? 😂 You used UK as an example, I used Finland, and now I’m the one cherry-picking?
I used UK, France, Italy, Germany, and majority of European nations where economies are currently crashing as examples.
False again.
True again, but no point arguing with qanon.
You are twisting my words. I have been constantly talking claims concerning Finland. You try to change the subject to the war itself.
You’ve been constantly talking about Finland helping prolong the war. You want people in Ukraine to suffer and die longer so you feel safer.
You claim to be an expert and you don’t know what’s even happening…?
I know what’s happening, and it’s different from the bullshit war propagandists sell.
Oh, and by the way. In previous thread you claimed that the news about Russian troops dying in large amounts is false, and you only believe what the US military experts say about the issue.
Yeah that’s why Pentagon keeps saying that Russia has most of their original operating power. Somehow, they’re losing 500 troops a day for four months and still haven’t had to send more troops in. Galaxy brain logic there.
Anyways, you do you there. Soon the war will be over, and imbecile war propagandists will be exposed for what they are. Enjoy acting smug while you can.
Are you high? You spoke about UN vote to condemn Russia. The vote you linked is to suspending Russia from Human Rights Council. It’s a different vote, and even in that the majority was against Russia. So who’s the one spreading misinformation?
The condemnation of the war means nothing. I’m talking about actual tangible action countries are taking. The most important action being economic warfare where the west finds itself isolated.
Clearly you haven’t been following the progress in the electricity production if you think all those countries are going to sink and not rise.
Clearly you have no understanding how energy production works or the amount of time and effort it takes to transition off fossils. Makes sense that you’d deluded about this as you are about everything else.
Then why do you keep arguing with me? Does the troll factory pay you per message?
Nobody is forcing you to reply. You could just walk away, yet here you are making false statements and calling people trolls. What’s wrong with you?
Where’s the propaganda? Russia is keeping the nuclear plant and doesn’t want to demilitarize it, while bombing it, putting people at major risk. At the same time they report that “accidents might happen”.
Wait Russia is bombing a nuclear power plant that it controls. That’s precisely the kind of logic I’ve come to expect from your brilliant mind.
The report doesn’t say they’ve losing 500 per day for four months. Don’t you remember the previous report? That is the situation now. Universum brain logic there.
So Russia just all of a sudden started losing 500 troops a day for no reason when Ukraine’s army is at its weakest. Got it.
My words exactly.
Can’t wait to see your words in a couple of months. Should be pretty hilarious to watch.
No, this is based on the actual facts that are available. These facts are stated by western entities such as the Pentagon and British military think tanks. These are also becoming increasingly admitted in western mainstream media.
That’s an interesting euphemism to say that they’re collapsing to third world standards. It’s pretty clear that you don’t understand much about energy usage in Europe or how global energy production works.
A strange statement given that Orban just handily won the election. Seems like the governments people are increasingly coming to despite are in UK, France, Germany, and Italy where they have either collapsed or are in the process of collapsing.
This statement shows an incredibly childish understanding of geopolitics.
I have, and I’ve repeatedly explained how. Your reading comprehension really needs work. Once again using small words. Finland prolongs suffering of people in Ukraine with no benefit to the people of Ukraine.
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First of all, I haven’t seen Russia claim anywhere that taking Kyiv was their stated objective. What Russia said was that the objectives demilitarization of Ukraine and backing independence of Donbas. Both of these objectives are currently being achieved.
However, the bigger picture here is the geopolitical realignment that’s happening. The west failed to get majority of the countries in the world to side with it against Russia. We’re now seeing a new economic system developing that’s completely separate from the western financial system. The winners from this debacle will be US, China, Russia, and the biggest loser will be Europe. The unipolar world dominated by the west is now gone forever.
Last I checked Europe is a bit bigger than Finland.
No, I claim that experts like Pentagon and RUSI are experts. All my claims are backed by what western militaries are saying as opposed to tabloid news you like to reference.
Of course you have, you back Finland prolonging the war and that is the direct outcome.
Of course, any atrocities committed by Russia are as reprehensible as those by NATO and its allies. Why would that be hard for me to say exactly?
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The indisputably are, even Ukraine admits this.
This is literally false. Take a look at the UN vote to condemn Russia. Most countries either voted against or abstained. The west was isolated and failed to get any further support since.
Look at who’s cherry picking. How are things going in Germany, Italy, and all the other countries where the economies are crashing.
If governments listened to their experts then the west would’ve never started an economic war with Russia. All the experts warned against it.
The false claim made by you is that Ukraine can win this war. This claim is at odds with the facts.
I have in many previous discussions.
Same as my opinion on other batshit insane things you make up. These are products of a deeply disturbed and deranged mind.
How is Russia using a nuclear power plant as a tool for blackmail?
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meanwhile in the real world 93 nations voted for, with 58 abstaining and 24 voting against https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/04/1115782
I used UK, France, Italy, Germany, and majority of European nations where economies are currently crashing as examples.
True again, but no point arguing with qanon.
You’ve been constantly talking about Finland helping prolong the war. You want people in Ukraine to suffer and die longer so you feel safer.
I know what’s happening, and it’s different from the bullshit war propagandists sell.
Yeah that’s why Pentagon keeps saying that Russia has most of their original operating power. Somehow, they’re losing 500 troops a day for four months and still haven’t had to send more troops in. Galaxy brain logic there.
Anyways, you do you there. Soon the war will be over, and imbecile war propagandists will be exposed for what they are. Enjoy acting smug while you can.
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The condemnation of the war means nothing. I’m talking about actual tangible action countries are taking. The most important action being economic warfare where the west finds itself isolated.
Clearly you have no understanding how energy production works or the amount of time and effort it takes to transition off fossils. Makes sense that you’d deluded about this as you are about everything else.
Nobody is forcing you to reply. You could just walk away, yet here you are making false statements and calling people trolls. What’s wrong with you?
Wait Russia is bombing a nuclear power plant that it controls. That’s precisely the kind of logic I’ve come to expect from your brilliant mind.
So Russia just all of a sudden started losing 500 troops a day for no reason when Ukraine’s army is at its weakest. Got it.
Can’t wait to see your words in a couple of months. Should be pretty hilarious to watch.
You have a good day of seething coping there bud.