• Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    A little bit, I mean they did do this:

    Corporate media and politicians lie and present biased framing to get people to hate whoever they want them to hate. We’ve seen it too many times and anytime we try to push back or ask for sources we get labelled as bots, shills, or tankies. We don’t mind criticism of any state, but we expect it to be well documented and framed in a reasonable context, and not just rumormongering.

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        WW2 famously lasted from the 1850s to the 1950s.

        WW2 didn’t hurt China’s life expectancy, due to the communists taking over the country piece by piece the conditions of the population improved DURING WW2. That’s how bad things were before the revolution. The conditions of a revolution, a civil war and a fascist invasion of extermination were simultaneously better than the humiliation and exploitation reaped by the British, American, and other capitalists. The life expectancy was 33 years old when Mao launched the revolution.

        The maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.

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            Do you know anything about ww2 in China?

            China beat the Japanese because the communists temporarily allied with the KMT to beat them. They were getting their ass kicked otherwise. Mao and the communists stay responsible winning even in your shit excuse.

            Citing Brazil is funny as fuck because they had a revolution in 1930, and guess when their life expectancy began to improve?

            Fuck all to do with ww2 and life expectancy was already nearly 50 before ww2 even ended. Revolutionaries stay winning.

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            Advances in modern medicine had virtually no impact in China’s life expectancy at the end of WWII because the vast majority of Chinese did not have any access to medicine whatsoever at that time. They didn’t even have vaccines, which had been around long before WWII. They often didn’t even have food, with famines being incredibly common before the communists came to power.

            Medicine did have an effect later, around 1968, but it wasn’t because of a breakthrough in technology but rather because of the wildly successful Barefoot Doctors program, which brought basic healthcare to hundreds of millions of Chinese. The post WWII bump was more because of land reform and lifting the boots of the landlords off the peasants necks, allowing them to keep more of what they growed.

            The immediate bump after WWII isn’t the main point of the meme, however. The main point is a clear long term trend of rapid growth following a long period of stagnation, with the pivotal turning point being exactly when the CPC came to power.