Respect must be earned. This is not ridiculous. There are many qualities that will earn you respect. Simply being dead is not one of them.

And yes, this is a rant about libs defending the Queen.

  • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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    This reminded me of polish joke about our dead president Lech Kaczyński:

    Funeral of L. Kaczyński, thousands of people present. Priest says: “remember that we either speak something good about the dead or nothing at all”

    loooooooooooong silence

    Finally someone from the back row screams “HIS BROTHER IS WORSE!”

  • If libs respected the dead, they wouldn’t be so horny to bomb people. It’s just more westoid hypocrisy and chauvinism, thinly veiled by self righteous arrogance.

  • @CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml
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    Libs want you to respect the dead because they are so far removed from death that they would rather pretend it simply doesn’t happen. Death is something that happens to “others”, not to our public figures or family.

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      “Death is something that happens to “others”, not to our public figures or family.”

      100% the concept of death and the gravity attached to that only illicits an emotional response in libs when it’s someone they are trained to like and conversely when thousands die because of capitalist greed they couldn’t give a shit.

      This is what infuriates me about this situation so much.

      I’d tolerate libs saying “well we never knew any other head of state so it’s sad in a changing of the times way”. I wouldn’t like it but I’d tolerate their shit just to get through my day without another stress line on my forehead but when they get upset and treat the death of someone rich or public like it somehow matters more than the multiple deaths of the “unimportant” working class of other countries and their own it makes me want to slap them really hard.

      Hypocritical stupidity by a brain dead group of bootlickers. I fucking hate it.

  • Seanchaí (she/her)
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    While I agree with the main thrust of what you’re saying, that there is no reason to respect a terrible person after they die, I do disagree with your opening statement that respect must be earned.

    Respect should be given freely to all. Respect should not be earned, but assumed. Disrespect should be earned (and in the case of the queen, was earned dearly). It’s a small difference, but I do think it’s an important mindset. The idea that someone needs to earn respect is part of liberal individualism: that unless and until someone does something to earn your respect, it’s “normal” to disrespect them.

    • @B0rodin@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      I see what you mean, but I would classify the kind of unconditional respect for another as a human being as being more just basic human decency. Respect is for me something that is added on top of that. I would call the first form of respect “human respect”, the second “individual respect”. “Individual respect” must be earned. “Human respect” is, as you say, a given, but can be lost. I hope that clears things up.

      • Seanchaí (she/her)
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        That’s a really interesting way to phrase it. And for sure, I really wasn’t meaning to like…pick on you for your choice there. It’s such a common phrase, I wasn’t incensed you had used it or anything, and I wasn’t meaning to assert you didn’t believe in human respect, as you put it. Just throwing a bit of conversation out there about the way that phrase is used. Appreciate you responding with the way you relate to it.

      • Seanchaí (she/her)
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        Hmm, yes, the little additives there definitely make a difference. Respect as an authority in any matter certainly has to be earned, for sure.

        I didn’t mean, either, for it to seem I was taking umbrage with this particular post or statement. It is just a thought I have whenever I see that old adage, “respect must be earned.” It’s thrown around a lot, and it has never sat right with me.

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    But she did a thing in WW2 and also there’s that pic of her driving an SUV with a hoodie on so she’s totally great guys. We must shower her with love and adoration.

  • @panic@lemmygrad.ml
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    I will respect the dead only to avoid hurting their family and other people who loved them. And in this case, I really hope to break the heart of every monarchist cuck.

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    Now that you mention it, there’s actually a great number of living people whom I would respect much more as corpses

  • @comradecarti@lemmygrad.ml
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    I find this funny. “It’s not hard to show some respect”. No it isn’t, I do it all the time. I’m purposefully not showing respect because I don’t respect institutions of colonial oppression. That’s the whole point.