• Shaggy0291@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago

    Any smoking guns?

    If not, what do you suppose it would take to actually expose these groups as cronies of the US government?

    • communist_wife@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      2 years ago

      Chelsea actually spoke to this point in her talk, she said that now states just do things in the open, but surriled it with so much disinformation that you can’t tell whats real or get overwhelmed. Look, the situation with Ukraine shows that the west is HAPPY to work with nazis, spend tax dollars on weapons for the military industry, let the poor pay for the gas bills of their wars, etc, and that’s all open. There’s nothing you can LEAK to make it look any worse than it is really. That’s genius, you can’t do a hack to expose a state who do it openly.

      When it comes to DDOSecrets I don’t think they are ‘cronies’ in that they are directly directed by agents. I think they just ideologically align with their own empire in the global struggle for imperialist primacy and buy the propaganda that its ‘progressive activism’ to support Nato interests on this issue. I have asked these people if they are paid by CIA btw, and told them they should be because as a trade unionist I believe in a fair days pay for a hard day’s work.

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      2 years ago

      besides the little bit that i could gather on my own, i got nothing. exposing them would be all about doxxxing, and getting receipts and or transcripts of any communication. i did notice ddossecrets mention some of the tools being used, and i know the hacking organizations submitting to ddossecrets did not make those tools, so that’s a start. they’re not using civilian tools/knowledge, so they have access to something civilians do not. also points out there’s also a slight decentralization in their organizational structure, from actors to journalists/presenters. there’s also been a lot of inter-fighting between those organizations, so might actually be easy to find someone who could talk about what’s going on in more depth and expose what’s really going on