Well firstly I’m not sure if this is the right place to post this lol, sorry comrades I’ve not used Lemmygrad so frequently and I kinda don’t want this on my Reddit account.
So I’m a Viet studying abroad in Germany, residing in the former East. One free Saturday a while ago me and the countrymen were going to Halle and suddenly a woman appoached us, first speaking in English but then switching over to German once she realized I spoke the tongue. At first she asked how many COVID shots I’ve taken (prolly cause we were wearing face masks). I was about to answer when I noticed the ‘End CCP’ leaflet on her hand (lol can’t even get the name right eh). Then I said ‘Ich interesse mich nicht dafür’ (‘I’m not interested’), whereupon she flipped pretty hard lol.
She proceeded to ask us what we’re doing in this country, and then harangues us about how we have to ‘play with’ (‘mitspielen’) since we’re ‘now in the West, not China anymore’ (democracy much?). Then my friend just said that we’re Vietnamese and then that actually shuts her up for good, prompting her to leave without saying a word.
Smh shoulda blasted Red sun in the sky.
And that makes me think a lot: Do those ‘anti-authoritarian warriors’ realize that it’s pretty racist to assume and pidgeonhole ethnic groups like that, and that it’s un-democratic if people all have to ‘play with’ in a ‘free’ society?
Pretty unbecoming and contradictory of their ‘goals’ huh.
Also got “Nihao”'d multiple times here, beautiful country.
(Once again sorry if this isn’t the place to post stories/rants).
This is definitely the place and thanks for sharing your experience. As a white immigrant in Germany I have witnessed many racist encounters, and that’s a big part of what motivates me to be much more vocally anti-racist.
To answer your question, no these “anti-authoritarian warriors” generally do not realize they’re being racist, but they also don’t care. Although if you called them out on being racist they’d probably have a tantrum about how offensive it is that you called them a racist.
That preconception that non-Europeans are unfamiliar with “democracy” and “free society” extends far further than just these outgoing train station solicitors too. For example, if you chose to permanently immigrate here you’d have to take an “integration course,” which condescendingly teaches you western values and the supposed principles of liberal democracy.
For example, if you chose to permanently immigrate here you’d have to take an “integration course,” which condescendingly teaches you western values and the supposed principles of liberal democracy.
It’s so funny seeing libs screeching about muh detention centers and reeducation/brainwashing, but then hold up Germany as a beacon of freedom, democracy and tolerance. People have to take “integration-courses” here, where they’re taught about le western values and how not to be a raping savage. Learning the language is mandatory too (cultural genocide much). Not saying language courses, familiarity with local law and customs isn’t useful or even necessary. Just if this happened in China or other ‘badcountry’ it would be the grossest human rights violation to them.
Of course local immigration policies are never anything western libs talk about, it never even occurs to them. In a way it makes sense, but it also completely invalidates whatever screeching they do about Asian immigration policies for example.
Tellingly enough, as a white Canadian I got an immediate exemption to the integration course, and only need to take a language course or test if I apply for a permanent visa.
It’s also a little ironic that there’s so much condescending effort spent on teaching non-white immigrants about German liberal democracy while reserving the right to vote for citizens only.
That’s liberal ideology in a nutshell. Unsolvable contradictions, because there’s no method behind their world analysis, which in turn becomes a blank canvas for conservatives and fascists to abuse it.
Learning the language is mandatory too (cultural genocide much).
You kind of lost me there. Why shouldn’t people with plans for permanent immigration learn local language? How is that cultural genocide?
It was a joke lol
People have implied Uyghurs having mandatory Mandarin classes is evidence of cultural genocide, even though it’s a benign policy used everywhere all the time
Ah, fair. Apologies, I got jumpy
For example, if you chose to permanently immigrate here you’d have to take an “integration course,” which condescendingly teaches you western values and the supposed principles of liberal democracy.
Real?
Welp one more reason not to stay
the more you harass passers-by who may or may not agree with your government’s foreign policy, the more democratic and free-thinking you are
Harassing random people on the streets to make them understand how free they are
Egon Krenz, last leader of the GDR and an unjustly maligned hero who had to deal with the mess created by Pizza Hut Man, actually supports the Chinese system. This lady can go stuff it.
Yes, best place to post it. I’d post it in Reddit too if you don’t mind triggering piece of shits, I would like to think it shouldn’t be bannable (big emphasis on “would like to think”).
By “play with” do you mean, like, “place nice with me cuz I’m a German”?
I do assume that but along comes the risk of getting ‘undesirable’ DMs…
‘mitspielen’ is used in the sense that someone does something along with the majority I believe. Like, ‘you gotta play by the rules here, this is our turf’
Durchschnittlicher deutscher Asienexperte
Ich habe Freunde aus Hongkong und sie stehen vor dem gleichen Problem. Wenn die Leute hören, dass sie aus Hongkong kommen, heißt es „Free Hong Kong!!!“, nur um zu hören, dass meine Freunde pro-China sind. Dann heißt es plötzlich ‘fuck China Uighurs bla bla’.
Oder immer wieder der Witz „hanki panki Shanghai, sambal, nasi goreng bami sate“.
Aber es gibt kein Rassismusproblem im West-Europa…
Als ich meine Heimat verließ hat man mich nur danach gefragt, ob ich mal zum Besuch von Familie zurückkehren wollte.
Man glaubt nicht, dass ich hier nicht bleiben will. (also abgesehen von meinen Großeltern, meinem Vater, und Freunden)
Und das finde ich so schade, angesichts Ereignisse wie diese, dass manche meiner Landsmänner noch den ‘modernen und zivilierten West’ so bewundern. Die Jugendliche sind jetzt von der Propaganda nicht so überzeugt mehr, aber da bleibt immer noch die Belogenen.
Leider sehen viele Leuten den Westen immer noch als absoluten Endpunkt, insbesondere für Migration. Aber das Blatt wendet sich tatsächlich.
In Belgien zum Beispiel gibt es viele Kinder kongolesischer Migranten, die jetzt mit westlichen Diplomen und Geld in den Kongo zurückkehren, um sich dort etwas aufzubauen. Sie finden im „freien“ Westen keinen Platz und ziehen deshalb zurück in ihr Mutterland, wo sie sich ein normales Leben aufbauen können.
Das ist so cool! Kannst du mir bitte die Quelle leihen? Will mir selbst diese absolut based-e Leute kennenlernen.
Ich habe gesucht, aber ich kann noch nichts finden. Ich glaube, es war ein Artikel, aber es hätte auch ein Video in den Nachrichten sein können. Ich werde das im Hinterkopf behalten, wenn ich wieder darauf stoße.
Well you may come to Poland, here mostly everyone would assume you’re Vietnamese :)
One day brother.
Handing out “End CCP” leaflets in GERMANY. Shouldn’t she as a German (I presume) worry about her own shitty government as its their actions that impact her the most. You truly have to be a racist chauvinist loser to think you have any say in the government of a completely different nation. Not to mention an idiot. I am sure the ruling class of her country love that shes wasting her time hating on a foreign government instead of them.
Shameful. Thanks for sharing.
just wait till the Falun Gong nutjobs get their band into your city and start playing brass instruments in the town square all day screaming about how Xi Jinping is harvesting their organs
Ok your last sentence kind of just reminded me of this time when I was walking down the street with my sister in the UK and some random white guy driving past said nihao to her.
As a male I never get any attention or whatever, I didn’t even notice. She of course noticed and said its basically a weekly occurance. Apart of me like to give these people leeway in assuming certain things, because in the place I am living it is mainly international chinese students. But regardless, we are not chinese. I’ve been mistaken for chinese multiple times too, by actual Chinese people. But again, I’d like to think its cultural exposure. In my home country of Malaysia, I was (mostly) never mistaken as a Chinese-Malaysian, but also there is also extensive interracial marriages (and I also have some chinese ancestry) and sometimes it is visually hard to discern.
It is ridiculous regardless that you have to face this, but again it just proves that ‘race’ is a social construct in its interpretations and experience. Something very obvious to any minority living in the West, or even if you have lived in multiple different countries (or if you are just not a Westerner, to be honest).
My biggest thing is they either thing it is funny or it is a great way to create rapport. It is actually not. If you don’t know someone’s culture dont just assume they will think you are being funny. Be respectful
