Need to vent caus dying from cringe is definitely a possibility. Can’t disclose too many details but basically they are big time anti-China propaganda propagators, literally fingers on the left hand of imperialism. I really don’t want to dunk on them because they’re sweet, humanly, so I’m just gonna not say much… but literally hiding isn’t really an option since I already did defend our boi against them

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    Just keep asking them how the US military and the western intelligence community benefited them.

    Ask them the connection between their lives improving and the recent middle eastern adventures.

    How did the war in Vietnam benefit them? How does embargoes on Cuba, DPRK, and Iran directly benefit them.

    When was the last time US military violence made women and minorities safer overseas?

    Ask for concrete examples.

    Then when they get into talking shit about China; remind them that despite Russia reforming to liberal democracy; Russia is now more OVERTLY engaged in war with the west more than they were as the USSR. Ask them if they think they would be any safer if China reformed or if they think it would be better that a much more hyper nationalist and hawkish party in China took over through “fair elections” and if they think it would be good for the Chinese government to be overthrown by our spy programs. Because the Mujahideen was our friends until our friends decided to kill 3 to 4 thousand Americans and drop some buildings on our heads.

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      Just keep asking them how the US military and the western intelligence community benefited them. Ask them the connection between their lives improving and the recent middle eastern adventures. How did the war in Vietnam benefit them? How does embargoes on Cuba, DPRK, and Iran directly benefit them.

      Unfortunately they aren’t that kind of liberal my dude, they are the bleeding heart kind of liberal, they can’t imagine a world where the democracies (white people) aren’t saving the world from barbarism (communism)

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        Then if they piss you off; tell them they arent warriors. They couldnt make a kintergarden behave much less overthrow foreign governments to embrace their precious white democracy. But if they want to put the global south in its place then they should pay a visit to their recruiter.

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    Yes it’s definitely a “pick your battles” type thing. Hopefully they expose a removed in their armor for you.

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    As long as you can actually have a discussion about the topic, communism shouldn’t be a problem. I have lengthy discussions with my liberal/sucdem family in law and despite us not agreeing always, they accepted my vision and wished me luck in my quest. They even wrote a funny poem for me for our Secret Santa a few weeks ago.

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    Ugh, I have some very liberal family as well. Really hard not to start dunking on them but I try to have productive conversation instead. It usually doesn’t go anywhere but we must never stop trying, lol