• Othello [comrade/them, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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    the volcel meme was always weird. like as someone with 20 something years of women experience it makes me deeply uncomfortable when i meet people like this irl. they almost always sexualize my body without my consent. i know most hexbears aren’t doing it for creepy or misogynistic reasons but its still super uncomfortable. like its fine online as a meme but if i heard this irl im getting away from that person as quickly as possible. also 10-24 is quite young most of these kids will hopefully grow out of this. EDIT i am an old user i fully understand the site culture i was a minor when all the gross shit was happening in reddit.

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netM
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      Yeah, 10-24 is young enough that a significant portion of the people surveyed believe in cooties and Santa Claus. Many of them haven’t even started puberty. Not exactly a mature enough audience to have a nuanced discussion on sexuality.

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          It doesn’t matter whether or not they’re consuming common media, it matters whether they’re mature enough to actually understand the content or have a nuanced conversation about anything at all, let alone sexuality. 10 year olds are in grade 5. On average they won’t start puberty for another 1-3 years. You’ll have way more luck talking about Fortnite or Pokemon than The Witcher or Baldur’s Gate 3 til they’re about 16. They’re young enough that many of them will still say “EWWWW!” If they see their parents kiss. Not the age where they’re going to understand human sexuality.

          A 10-15 year old shouldn’t be watching R rated films or playing M rated games in the first place, so shouldn’t even be engaging with the part of common media where they would really see sex on screen. They’re more likely to see the most useless and poorly implemented censored sex scenes that might be shoehorned into PG-13 or T rated content, which could help explain why it feels superfluous to them.

          I think it would be extremely helpful to see the breakdown on this per age year, or even just broken down betwen ages 10-17 and 17-24. A 14 year age gap spanning all the way from pre-pubescent primary schoolkids all the way through kids who have already graduated from university is not a consistent group.

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      the volcel meme was always weird.

      It comes from the old sub where it emerged as a way to “jokingly” confrontationally shut down redditors and combat the reddit-logo culture of gross hornyposting whenever a thread was at least tangentially about a woman, which is only a few steps down from unsolicited dickpics and catcalling in the creepy cishet guy arsenal of tools to lash out at and feel like they’re exerting control over women. The sub at the time had only 3 or 4 mods IIRC and an extremely hands-off moderation culture compared to its later purge of stupidpol posters or this site’s repeated struggle sessions and purges that have arrived at the current aggressive crackdowns on reddit-logo style thirstposting, so the community had to rely on bullying to shut the redditors down.

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        i know! i was on the old sub. i fully understand the culture. every time i complain about it people try explaining it to me like i just dont understand i know! in fact i was minor who the policy should have been protecting lol (i hope some of yall know you were flirting with a 16 year old lol). doest change the amount of shitty and disguised sexulization the culture creates (suddenly everything with a womens body requires anti horny memes which if you are the only one sexaulizing nin sexual things youre the problem), and makes people feel comfortable saying awful misanthropic and misogynistic things like seen in this thread and many others. listen, its a part of the site culture and it was mainly implemented to protect trans women so I as a afab nonbinary person dont call for the whole thing to me abandoned (i know trans women get harassed 10 time more than me so i can suck it up for their benefit), i just fucking hate it and how its used for misogynistic reasons. and if people are being gross to me they usually get banned anyway so im fine its just annoying. sorry for sounding frustrated i just hate that every time i voice frustration someone feels this need to explain it to me like im some ignorant newbie instead of a longtime user who this policy is suppose to protect. i know you dont have bad intentions koba, thank you, i just get so annoyed when i feel condescended to. but yeah im gonna have to change my name to othello-I-AM-AN-OLD-USER

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          (suddenly everything with a womens body requires anti horny memes which if you are the only one sexaulizing nin sexual things youre the problem)

          Yeah, I’ve seen that too. I still prefer people being like “haha yeah I sure would be saying something gross right now if not for the standards of this community haha” to them saying something more explicit and thus normalizing that sort of thing, but it’s still gross. It should never be a tongue-in-cheek self report because then it’s just a euphemism, it should be a response to gross comments although now the site culture and moderation level is just that those get slapped with comment removals and/or bans instead so it may have less of a purpose now than when it was just “peer pressure redditors into not being creepy because the mods aren’t doing shit.”

          And sorry, I do always feel compelled to chime in about the history of weird site culture things to try to keep the institutional knowledge alive and preempt the telephone game of new users who just heard about it somewhere trying to fill it in. I can see how that would feel patronizing and I apologize for that.

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      People like to fuck. This is mostly true even for asexual people (the main difference is that non-sex-repulsed asexual people aren’t driven by a desire to fuck but the actual sexual act itself can still be fun to them). And people can get very creative in where and when they fuck. Art should reflect this reality on some level.

      I feel like the same creepy people would be shocked to learn teleworkers are using their time WFH to fuck on the company clock. Like, people already hook up on company time before Covid for a quickie. WFH makes it much easier lmao