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    Do you think her playing amogus on twitch was her covert way of signaling that she is sus?~I’m very sorry I have no self control re:amogus memes~

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    I don’t know about being a CIA asset or anything, but she’s for sure controlled opposition. She’s the hip young “leftist” to keep all the kids from looking too deeply into actual socialist ideologies.

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    Holy fuck the replies.

    CIA got a few of their accounts on it and then algorithmically steered a couple of chuds and woke-chuds they knew would organic-ify the astroturf. May God kill me and everyone in my family horribly if I’m wrong.

    Good luck trying to explain that to someone not in the know. THIS is gaslighting, real gaslighting. Holy shit.

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      Honestly the replies are more validating than the actual thread [exaggeration for comedic effect]

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    I don’t buy it. She has two bachelor degrees, both in fields common for young folks interested in politics. If she were a spook they’d have at least sent her to grad school. Instead they had her spend 5 years post-college working at restaurants and non-profits, and then knocking doors for a little known senator from Vermont in 2016?

    I also find it a stretch that the CIA wants anyone with a loudspeaker normalizing socialism, undoing years of their hard work.

    The real problem is that there isn’t any leftist org or union powerful enough to hold their endorsed politicians accountable. Even if we run a self-taught bartender with a heart of gold for president, once elected they’re no longer ours.

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      Right, but what you say only means she was not always an op, but not necessary that she isn’t now. Not even letters have resources or need to observe every pencil pusher around, but once at the certain level of career, especially being known as a “socialist” would 100% draw their attention.

      There are also of course more mundane explanations for why someone appearing genuine will suddenly turn warmonger when elected to the office.

      Many people more or less believe she’s an op because alternative is that entire left side of US politics is rotten to the core so only duplicious bootlickers surface there.

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      It’s always gotta be a conspiracy, when in reality, history has demonstrated that socdems are shit and evil enough without being secret sleeper agents lol now Pete Buttigieg, that guy is a fucking op.

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      Yeah it’s almost certain she is just an opportunist career politician. Urban areas in the US are fertile grounds for “progressive” pseudo-radical politicans to take advantage of.

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    this was such a good thread, it convinced me completely of my suspicions and helped me look into other opps like the surkov-esque non-linear warfare adoption

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        This was my suspicion too, this follows the trend of blaming Russia for everything. The accusation also flies in the face of Putin’s successful populism, instead promoting an angle of “autocrat” which again reflects current western propaganda trends regarding Russia. Russia is also not known for chaos, they are known for order perhaps being still chained to their history of Soviet development, it just varies upon which class’ interests are pursued. America on the other hand is a chaos engine following no planning, throwing all logic for the sake of continuity.

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    5 points about non-linear propaganda:

    1. We don’t have to analyze every contradiction to perfection and to understand the picture 100%, we just have to pay more attention than the narrative spinners. The bourgeois’ interests will constantly reemerge as constant, evident, streams of actions.

    2. Marxism actually allows us to cut through all of the fluff to identify the genuine trends.

    3. Once a clear understanding of the situation is obtained, what is known to be bs can be cast aside, thus increasing proficiency and productivity within the process.

    4. Non-linear propaganda is nothing more than rehashed Menshevik tactics. It’s controlled opposition, with a shotgun method (Trump’s every possibility including the truth tactic) applied to propaganda. Although the truth’s they choose have been selective, these “leaks” have not crippled the system.

    5. Mao has already developed a solution to this: No one and nothing is above criticism. One must simply make this the default approach, to assume one is approaching you in bad faith so as to insulate oneself from manipulation. This comes natural for many of us in the core. After all, lying is more American than apple pie or genocide.

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        A guy who has since been banned from Twitter who posted a bunch of similar investigative deep dive type threads. He covered topics such as the Nord Stream bombings (saying similar things back in late September as Sy Hersh wrote about two weeks ago) and how the disappearance of MH370 back in 2014 looks like a US military op. He had a couple other interesting observations which I’m not remembering at the moment.

        Looks like he got temporarily banned just a couple weeks ago for exposing Ukrainian chemical weapons use.

        Fortunately some of his threads are still up on threadreader.

        https://threadreaderapp.com/user/bidetmarxman

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    So the weird thing about these “progressives” is how they came out of absolutely nowhere. You would expect a leftist politician to have some sort of longstanding history with the broader leftist movement in America. With the exception of Bernie Sanders, whose been in politics and preaching his weird brand of milquetoast social democracy for decades, none of these people had one. AOC ran for congress right of college. Obama had had some ill-defined role as a “community organizer.” Rashida Tlaid, Ilian Omar, and Ayanna Pressley were staffers for Democratic politicians. And despite the fact that nobody on the left had heard of them, and they had no access to any existing leftist networks in America, we were all supposed to get behind them and show support, or else we we somehow betraying “the movement.” That may or may not be evidence of an op, but it’s certainly very fishy.