• Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    My 2A freedom doesn’t impinge upon you in any way shape or form. You can’t preemptively charge people for crimes you’ve imagined.

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      8 months ago

      Statiscally, there is a significant possibility that it will. In many states, stand your ground laws would let you get away with killing someone even if they were unarmed and not physically violent towards you.

      No one’s saying you should be charged with a crime, however measures need to be taken to ensure public safety overall. The 2nd Amendment shouldn’t supercede the right to life, and yet it directly facilitates loss of life.

      How many mass shootings do other Western countries have? What’s different in how they handle guns under law? The flaws are glaringly obvious, yet you cling to them out of nothing but pure selfishness.

      You don’t need guns, you want them, but people need to live and are dying because of how prevalent guns are.

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        8 months ago

        I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice.

        However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition.

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          8 months ago

          What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor?

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          8 months ago

          Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important?

          Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes?

          Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time.

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            8 months ago

            All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it.

            It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A.

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                  8 months ago

                  No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I’m saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I’m asking you to justify the statement you made.

                  Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions?