• TechyDad@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      So saying that attacking American Jewish places of worship and American Jewish owned businesses because of things Israel has done isn’t anti-semitic? At what point does attacking Jews become anti-semitic to you?

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        Don’t fly the flag of Isreal if you disagree with what the government of Isreal is doing, pretty obvious…

        Violence and vandalism aren’t the same thing BTW

        Let me explain this further, imagine a German person during the Nazis reign in Germany lives in the US, if they fly the flag of the Nazis, do you think they’re endorsing what the government of Germany is doing? If someone vandalized their flag because they disagreed with what Nazi German was doing, would you consider that to be anti-german or anti-nazi?

        Let me be absolutely clear, I don’t condone violence against any one aside from in self defense, I think everyone deserves the right to try and find happiness and meaning in life as long as it doesn’t come at the cost of other people’s well being. I don’t consider vandalizing a flag of a country that is committing war crimes to be violence against people. Just like I wouldn’t think burning or otherwise vandalizing a US flag for all the shit the US has done is anti-American (the people who live in America or were born there and moved out of state vs the government/people in power in the US) but nuance is hard apparently.

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          When a person’s vandalism is directed at places because they are where Jews go or places Jews own then there’s no difference. And when someone is targeting Jewish organizations because they are Jewish, that’s anti-semitic whether or not any people are injured in the vandalism.

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      1 year ago

      Synagogues represent Jewish faith, not the government of Israel. There’s a very very important distinction there and failing to make it is a serious issue

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        1 year ago

        Maybe Jewish synagogues shouldn’t fly the flag of Isreal if they don’t agree with what the government is doing then? It’s not saying anything about Synagogues specifically in the screenshot.

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          1 year ago

          FFS do you actually think every synagogue in the world supports Israel? Plenty of Jews have spoken out against Israel’s actions. Yet your world view holds that we should attack their places of worship. That’s disgusting.

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            I literally didn’t say that, and I know for a fact many Jewish people don’t support Israel.

            Is it a requirement for a synagogue to fly the flag of Isreal? Again that’s literally indicating that they support the state and what it’s doing.

            Once again vandalizing a flag and attacking Jewish people isn’t the same thing in the slightest.

            Idk how more clear I can be, you’re literally misinterpreting what I’m saying and what the post is saying to make it look anti-Jewish when it’s only anti-Isreal.

            I’ll say this as plainly as possible, I’m not racist, I’m not religious, I don’t support Hamas, I don’t support Israel. I support people’s right to exist and their pursuit of happiness to the extent that it doesn’t negatively effect or harm other people’s lives.

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              But you think that if a synagogue flies the star of David - which everyone I’ve seen does - then you believe that means they must support Israel and are therefore valid targets and noone should feel that their place of worship being attacked is in any way aimed at them?