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    11 months ago

    the secret is they should be using wax instead of glues, but that requires a warm squeeze and they are trying to save a thousandth of a penny and hope nobody notices. i email the CEOs about it.

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    The fucking texture of that cottony shit left behind, like nails on a chalkboard trying to rip it all off.

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    The glues work fine, it’s the paper/cardboard that failed because the glue was stronger.

    It’s the worst when it happens to boxes because instead of collapsing a box proper you have to tear it to fucking pieces, THANKS OBAMA.

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    You may be interested to know that these kinds of paper adhesives are usually intentionally designed so that the substrate (paper) tears before the adhesive does. This is meant to ensure robust packing and to give proof that the package has not been tampered with. Couple this with ever thinner and shittier substrates, and, well…

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      Ugh. I believe them already. It’s sealed for my protection. I get it. It says so nearly 100 times. I don’t check the seals for syringe marks first either, or the factory’s latest cleanroom maintenance logs. Just let me in, I already paid the extortionate entry fee.

      Seriously though, I wouldn’t mind so much if they always were just paper I could poke a finger through at the end. Sometimes there’s another super stretchy thick plastic layer under that which resists everything but blades. I don’t want to keep a knife in my bathroom, but I’m getting to the point where I’ve thought about it.

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        I know what you mean. I wish more stuff could just be packed in glass jars with the little popping seal. If it’s popped, it has been opened. I don’t know if everything can handle the pressure difference… But it seems ideal. Plus then the glass jars and aluminum lids can be recycled.

      • 𝕽𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖙@lemmy.world
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        I don’t want to keep a knife in my bathroom, but I’m getting to the point where I’ve thought about

        Have you considered just not eating peanut butter in the bathroom?

        Or open it in the kitchen first.

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          This was a supplement I was opening on my way to the bathroom, where I keep my medication. Long covid memories makes ms forget everything to open first. Long covid memory problems also make me fail to double check my posts every time for bad autocorrect.

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    How about the ones that get fused to the opening like someone was welding fucking steel girders together on the Golden Gate Bridge?

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      I would be fine with mediocre or even shitty adhesive properties here. It’s protected and pressure is maintained using a solid HDPE capped jar with perforations, which is already a tamper-evident seal. I don’t need a padlock on it either. Or even a disability-proof cap (the manufacturers prefer the name “child-proof” though). And there are multiple adhesives which don’t impart odor or flavor. Even superglue wouldn’t do it, given you need less than a tiny smear. What an odd false dichotomy you have given me.

      Behold, could this be the best of both worlds? (image description: glass bottle with half-peeled seal. The separation is clean and easy and lacks flavor.)

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    They need to talk to the people who make flour bags. Those paper bags glued shut with the strongest glue known to man, so that they are impossible to open without tearing a big hole in the bag, rendering it impossible to store the flour in.

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      You shouldn’t store flour in the paper bag it comes in anyways, flour should be stored in an airtight container.

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        I do move it into glass jars, but those bags drive me crazy. Always spill flour opening them.

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            No, it’s rolled up in a way that prevents it being opened neatly. I do use scissors on the Red Hot Blues tortilla chips, those have a similar problem but the shape of the bag allows it to be cut cleanly.

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    But that costs money and how are we gonna make even more money if we reinvest any of the earnings? 😩

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    Literally me today with a small soap container, but it was a trifecta: the lid separated from a plastic seal under it as with the picture, with the tiniest of rim you can barely get with your fingernails to pry it off to begin with, and a seal so strong you can’t just puncture it with you fingers.

    As with another suggestion I just used thermite.

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    They keep a record of complaints as part of their CAPA. Any food related issues should always be reported, helps quality dept.s push for more funding.

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      And then the quality department uses those complaint printouts to level their wobbly tables in the cafeteria.

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        Quality hasn’t printed out complaint reports since the 90s in most places. But, yeah about the same impact by the end of the day…or quarter.

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        Because the reports go unheeded by management until it costs them money, at which point the quality department get their arses kicked for not fixing the problem that management ignored.

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        Look at back of product. Often it’ll have someoney like, "If you have any questions or weren’t fully satisfied call this number. ". Or it might be on their site now.

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        Should be pretty easy to find on their packaging or website, as it looks like someone else here pointed out :) Also, we can’t tell what the hell it is so not sure how you could think we could tell ya… :)

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          Oh I thought you meant there was one point of contact for such things, like we have the “better business bureau” or the FCC federal communications commission, or the FDA etc.

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            The BBB is a non-profit company that only has as much power and influence as given them by the public. Tell me, do you check the BBB often to decide on how you spend your money? No one else does either! The BBB is about as toothless as they come. FCC like you said…nothing to do with this. FDA would be who you would contact if the product required recall such as was ‘adulterated’ and made you sick. Or I guess if you could prove the company didn’t follow FDA GMP’s. I guess if you want to try to tattle you could find out what quality and food safety schemes they follow. This is ‘sometimes’ proudly displayed on their website. You are looking for SQF, AIB, BRC as those are the big 3 GFSI schemes right now. Lol I am giving you waaay too much info probably. Anyway…there isn’t a manager you can ask to speak to on this one. It’s report it to them, or possibly their certifying GFSI body (which will probably get you nowhere).

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              okay well one time a company was being scammy on me so I told them I would report them to the better Business bureau and they backed off.

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      Other than slight annoyance when things are hard to open, it’s better. You can be sure no one stuck their dick in it, smeared a booger, or put anything harmful or anything else on or in it. Stuff also keeps longer, as long as you don’t break the seal most stuff stays good for a long time.

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        Other than slight annoyance when things are hard to open, it’s better.

        Sure, if you are not experiencing the symptoms of medical conditions. Especially the conditions that led you to be opening the bottle in the first place, that’s when it’s especially insulting on top of the additional pain/fatigue the situation generates.

        It’s not even that I don’t like seals. I love the caps and covers on the tins and bottles and jars of food in my kitchen. I even love recyclable ziplock bags, and there are flimsy takeaway containers out there that are literally watertight. I just don’t like seals that are poorly made. There are products with usable seals out there, I know this first-hand. I’ve used them. I use them everyday.

        Even then, not everything we consume has to be Fort Knox just because someone tainted a product intentionally or accidentally in the past. There are product recalls for various problems everyday and yet I’ve avoided getting ill from my groceries my entire life. I’m fine with buying my bread in a paper bag, I don’t need them to start using hermetically sealed boxes with padlocks.

        And honestly, there are so many points in the production lines of most things where someone has the opportunity to stick their dick in something, that I just can’t dedicate the energy to entertaining that possibility on a daily basis. I also can no more verify that the last burger I ate was made by someone who washed their hands, any more than I can verify that the tomatoes I’m buying to make ketchup for homemade burgers weren’t grown using human faeces and picked by slaves. And I say this as someone who has some immunity issues: There are just too many vectors for various kinds of contamination than you can imagine, let alone reasonably safeguard against - you have to pick and choose to battle the most likely to occur or kill you. I do not battle the possibility of penis in my products. I just don’t have that kind of time.

        We have the technology. This situation literally doesn’t need to exist for anyone ever. And yet it’s clearly common as fuck.